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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    This is a tragedy on all levels. One stupid decision resulted in the destruction of two families. This same stupid decision is made every day. I don't for one minute think that this guy "does not care".
    He has a long record of hiway traffic act violations. He is an adult who spilled out of the private jet completely drunk and drove away. No pity. None. I hope he gets raped every day in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Am not going to comment on the duration of his sentence, we know what everyone thinks.
    But I'm positive his life here is over, he will have to face this for the rest of his life. And if he
    tries and forgets, society will always remind him. He will carry this guilt on his shoulders for
    the rest of his life, whether he gets out early or not.
    Finally some compassion. I'm all for serving the consequences whatever the crime. That doesn't mean I don't have some compassion for the offender. I would bet there are some on here who drank and drove , but no accidents happened.
    I can assure you that he won't emerge from prison the same man. He will suffer for the rest of his life .

    We are all capable of the worst of crimes.
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    I was 6 when my grandmother was smoked by a DD while walking on a country road. While I don't remember her or carry it the rest of my life, the way my father did.....

    Ms Lake will carry the anguish of losing her 3 toddlers the rest of her life to. Don't know her from Adam but I'd bet even money her life is ruined and she may not recover. She might become an alcoholic, or a statistic.

    While I may not wish any "harm" on this guy. I have zero sympathy for him. In time he will get out and resume his life of privelage. Ms Lake? Don't bet on it.
    Last edited by JBen; March 29th, 2016 at 05:34 PM.

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    I lost a cousin to a drunk driver and a good buddy from high school ( 2 victims in that one ). Both drivers were caught, both were adults and got minimal sentences. No sympathy. You choose to drink you choose to drive. That woman will likely live a life of pure hell and anguish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    He has a long record of hiway traffic act violations. He is an adult who spilled out of the private jet completely drunk and drove away. No pity. None. I hope he gets raped every day in jail.
    Terry, although I also have very little sympathy (thinking this could have been my own children), the media has totally twisted this around, and made him look worse. The long highway traffic act violations I have heard consist of parking ticket offences and some speeding fines. My "long list" probably looks just as bad as his long list. Let's make sure we know the facts, and understand the media only puts fuel in the fire.

    The guy is going to live with this for the rest of his life. The parents are going to live with this the rest of theirs, and their pain will be greater than Muzzo's pain. It is a trategy all around.

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    Im very torn on this.

    While I feel in a vacuum 10 years is not nearly enough, we're not in a vacuum. Hes not a violent offender. His risk of re-offending is likely low. Keeping him in jail rotting away will serve only to waste our taxpayer money.

    If we had some way to give him a lifetime of work for the state and betterment of society with no benefit to himself then I'd be all for it, but unfortunately we do not.

    Theres no easy answer to this one. I dont like that he'll be out early, but I also feel the money it costs to keep him any longer then that doesnt make sense.

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    What I can't understand is will this set the precedent now for an average sentence of 2 years for killing a person while drunk driving.

    I can be pissed as I a few years ago got 3.5 years for growing 10 pot plants and pleading guilty. He gets 2.5 per life he took.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cantcatchacold View Post
    What I can't understand is will this set the precedent now for an average sentence of 2 years for killing a person while drunk driving.

    I can be pissed as I a few years ago got 3.5 years for growing 10 pot plants and pleading guilty. He gets 2.5 per life he took.
    Don't seem fair does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon View Post
    We are all capable of the worst of crimes.
    No, we're not.

    I hate when people make that or similar statements.

    Some of us have moral compasses that govern how we live and what we do.
    We're not perfect by any means, but we try to live "good lives" and that tends to keep the transgressions
    on a much smaller scale than those who live recklessly without care for their or others safety.

    Something bad happens and people say "It could happen to anyone". Sometimes true, but more often
    its a consequence of a risky action that that "Could only happen to any fool who takes risky actions without regard for consequences."
    Last edited by werner.reiche; March 31st, 2016 at 07:36 AM.

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    [QUOTE=werner.reiche;966221]No, we're not.

    I hate when people make that or similar statements.

    Some of us have moral compasses that govern how we live and what we do.
    We're not perfect by any means, but we try to live "good lives" and that tends to keep the transgressions
    on a much smaller scale than those who live recklessly without care for their or others safety.

    Something bad happens and people say "It could happen to anyone". Sometimes true, but more often
    its a consequence of a risky action that that "Could only happen to any fool who takes risky actions without regard for consequences."[/QU0TE ]

    Most definitely agree with your post !

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