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June 16th, 2015, 11:01 AM
#11
There has been a rash of shootings, but the 'gang related' shootings need to be addressed separately. Personally I tend to see gang shootings as a self-policing mechanism.
There is room for all God's creatures - right next to the mashed potatoes!
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June 16th, 2015 11:01 AM
# ADS
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June 17th, 2015, 07:35 AM
#12
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
seabast
So, this is how you also explain that roughly 100 kids under 14 died every year in the state by accidental gun discharge?
Well said.
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June 17th, 2015, 07:44 AM
#13
This is all up the road from my place. Just across the street from where Karen buys pet food.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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June 17th, 2015, 10:13 AM
#14
So, this is how you also explain that roughly 100 kids under 14 died every year in the state by accidental gun discharge?[/QUOTE]
Any number regarding this issue is bad but I think yours is inflated. If you include suicide and homicide it would be around 300 but accidental is 22.
http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leadingcauses.html
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June 17th, 2015, 10:40 AM
#15
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Mdiddi
So, this is how you also explain that roughly 100 kids under 14 died every year in the state by accidental gun discharge?
Any number regarding this issue is bad but I think yours is inflated. If you include suicide and homicide it would be around 300 but accidental is 22.
http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leadingcauses.html[/QUOTE]
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The thing with #, you can always find some that prove you right. Not sure where you get "300" though, and let not forget the injured.....
"Over 7,000 children are hospitalized or killed due to gun violence every year, according to a new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics. An additional 3,000 children die from gun injuries before making it to the hospital, bringing the total number of injured or killed adolescents to 10,000 each year."
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/t...lence-children
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...hildren-yearly
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...-we-dont-know/
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June 17th, 2015, 11:51 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
seabast
So, this is how you also explain that roughly 100 kids under 14 died every year in the state by accidental gun discharge?
You said this. I said it's inflated.
The CDC I thought was a good source for statistics. The chart I originally used was 2012 but it linked to a more current 2013 which is actually higher than 22. Still not close to a hundred. Under 14 there is approximately 300 deaths including accidental homicide and suicide. If you go up in age that number jumps in suicide and homicide but accidental is not a top ten.
Again no child deaths are good.
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June 17th, 2015, 12:33 PM
#17
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Mdiddi
You said this. I said it's inflated.
The CDC I thought was a good source for statistics. The chart I originally used was 2012 but it linked to a more current 2013 which is actually higher than 22. Still not close to a hundred. Under 14 there is approximately 300 deaths including accidental homicide and suicide. If you go up in age that number jumps in suicide and homicide but accidental is not a top ten.
Again no child deaths are good.
Just like I said before depends where you get the #'s, seems like different organizations get different #....
How do you explain that this unintentional firearm deaths don't show up on the CDC table though?
September 2013 3 years old
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3899121.html
November 2013, 2 years old
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/flo...hooting-62307/
If you pay attention you will see that there is no "Unintentional firearm" death from 1 to 4 years old in any of CDC tables. From what I read, I believe that I pretty close from the reality.
Btw, check the last 20 pages of that document, really sad:
http://everytown.org/documents/2014/...cents-lost.pdf
Last edited by seabast; June 17th, 2015 at 12:40 PM.
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June 17th, 2015, 12:35 PM
#18
Has too much time on their hands
I'm not against gun, I'd love to have a few hand guns, but not everyone can own one...
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June 17th, 2015, 12:57 PM
#19
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the cdc chart covers the leading causes which would explain the under 3 missing those tragic events.
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June 17th, 2015, 01:14 PM
#20
When you guys start arguing about how many kids got killed your missing the main point - because some people are careless with their guns and kids get a hold of them are you trying to justify preventing 300 million people from having a gun to defend themselves if needed - there are always going to be accidents with things that people use be it a lawn mower, a car or what have you - if you really want to save lives get rid of cars or make them so they can't only go over 20 miles per hour -