What effect will the so-called 'PPC surge' mean

[Gilroy]

Driving around before the election in my area, PC had the most yard signs (not just on street corners or public laneways - actual yards). Followed by PPC and NDP. Liberals were 4th.
Funny - come election day, the Liberals "won".

Just talked to my daughter and she had voted PPC in Burlington. My son chased away the Liberal canvasser at my front door two weeks ago while I was having my coffee. I was not bothered Peter Fonseca had the usual cake walk. My son ended up not voting at all as he did not like anybody, or at least that was his excuse. LOL

[MarkB]

Just talked to my daughter and she had voted PPC in Burlington. My son chased away the Liberal canvasser at my front door two weeks ago while I was having my coffee. I was not bothered Peter Fonseca had the usual cake walk. My son ended up not voting at all as he did not like anybody, or at least that was his excuse. LOL

Sometimes you vote, not necessarily because you absolutely like someone, but because you absolutely are in fear of an idiot taking the election ... choose your poison!

[MarkB]

I take that back, I see some of the final tallies are coming in and the PPC ...DID.. cost the Cons seats .

Kitchener South Hespler and Kitchener Connestoga both lost to Libs by less than 3% and the PPC took 7% in both ridings.

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/election-2021

Yup ... there were a few ridings where the PPC vote, if added to the CPC vote, would have translated to a Conservative Seat ... and instead they got a Liberal seat.
This isn't rocket science ... as most of us predicted, the PPC just helped the Liberals gain seats ... now that's what I call a plan that backfired ... basically spiting themselves!!

Over 800,000 votes for the PPC, and it means NOTHING ... not one seat to show for it ... instead it helped the Liberals win their minority.
Hope PPC voters can live with the outcome ... because now you got another 4 years of Prime Minister Clown Face.

[Gilroy]

Sometimes you vote, not necessarily because you absolutely like someone, but because you absolutely are in fear of an idiot taking the election ... choose your poison!

It would probably be less painful for some of you folks to congratulate Justin on his fantastic win and congratulate his supporters. LOL

[Badenoch]

Yup ... there were a few ridings where the PPC vote, if added to the CPC vote, would have translated to a Conservative Seat ... and instead they got a Liberal seat.
This isn't rocket science ... as most of us predicted, the PPC just helped the Liberals gain seats ... now that's what I call a plan that backfired ... basically spiting themselves!!

Over 800,000 votes for the PPC, and it means NOTHING ... not one seat to show for it ... instead it helped the Liberals win their minority.
Hope PPC voters can live with the outcome ... because now you got another 4 years of Prime Minister Clown Face.

Even if you gave the CPC the seats where the PPC support combined with theirs might have won and took all the recounts it still wouldn't change the outcome. Trudeau would still have more seats and the party with the most seats is given the first opportunity to form the government.

It's also unlikely we are stuck with Trudeau for 4 years. We can expect to be doing this again in 2023.

[MikePal]

It's also unlikely we are stuck with Trudeau for 4 years. We can expect to be doing this again in 2023.

Definitely, he behaves like a petulant child ( not hard to see being a trust fund baby). His pride will take a hit every time he has to call Jagmeet for a favour.

[MarkB]

It would probably be less painful for some of you folks to congratulate Justin on his fantastic win and congratulate his supporters. LOL

Congratulate a corrupt chauvinistic money binger?? Come on ... lol. That is nothing worth celebrating over ... it honestly breaks my heart that Canadians would accept such trash as a PM of our great country.

[MarkB]

Even if you gave the CPC the seats where the PPC support combined with theirs might have won and took all the recounts it still wouldn't change the outcome. Trudeau would still have more seats and the party with the most seats is given the first opportunity to form the government.

It's also unlikely we are stuck with Trudeau for 4 years. We can expect to be doing this again in 2023.

Even if it was 6 more seats to the CPC, and those 6 less seats to the Libs ... it is a weaker minority for the Libs ... every seat makes a difference. The Libs would need to convince 6 more people on other parties to support their absurd ideas.

[MikePal]

Even if it was 6 more seats to the CPC, and those 6 less seats to the Libs ... it is a weaker minority for the Libs ... every seat makes a difference. The Libs would need to convince 6 more people on other parties to support their absurd ideas.

Looks like Nationally the the PPC votes may have cost the Cons up to 25 seats....and gained nothing for it.

As of Tuesday afternoon, Cumming was almost 140 votes behind Liberal Randy Boissonnault, who held Edmonton Centre from 2015 until the Conservative flipped it in 2019.

The result might have been different if not for Crocker, the People's Party of Canada candidate who garnered just over 2,000 votes, signifying a potential pocket of support on the right that could have launched Cumming into the lead.

The situation is one that repeated itself in other parts of the country as the maverick movement led by Maxime Bernier picked up votes, but fell short of winning a seat in the House of Commons.

Trevor Tombe, an economics professor at the University of Calgary, took a look at the results and plotted 25 seats where the combined Conservative and PPC vote was greater than the winner's share of the votes.

[Bushwhacker]

One thing the PPC has which the Conservatives have long thrown out the window is actually defending conservative positions.

They simply are afraid of the debate when it comes to gun control for example, so much so that they can defend a rollback of some of the recent regulations performed by Trudeau. O'Toole was afraid to debate that federal positions shouldn't be restricted based on vax pass, or trains, flights. They are so afraid to take on the Vaxxy Media Machine that they simply give up every rational position that might actually help us. Rather than say "we can't afford increased benefits while dealing with the medical emergency" and defending that position, they just throw money like liberals and NDP. I think their pitch was just that they would be "liberals with better management". That could be a sneaky strategy just to get in, especially when everything has moved much further left, and especially in mega liberal hell-holes like Toronto, but it alienates actual conservatives.

Looking at the Conservative party of 2021, they simply don't hold a single conservative position. They are in liberal/NDP frame.

If CPC and their supporters had spent as much time going after the Libs and NDP as they did the PPC...