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June 1st, 2021, 08:04 AM
#21
Looking at Ontario yesterday in an all important vote on extending the emergency orders to December 1st and which affects each and every individual in this province, the majority did not or could not be bothered to vote on this issue.
Now, that certainly demonstrates how dysfunctional our government has become. Doug Ford himself abstained. Simply disgusting.
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June 1st, 2021 08:04 AM
# ADS
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June 1st, 2021, 10:54 AM
#22
People are taking notice and the political lines are now blurred.
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June 3rd, 2021, 09:37 PM
#23
Has too much time on their hands
The small parties need to pick a riding and get elected and show that unlike the Greens they are adults at the table. A vote for anyone but duh Toole is a vote for Justlied, plain simple reality.
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June 4th, 2021, 07:47 AM
#24

Originally Posted by
impact
Looking at Ontario yesterday in an all important vote on extending the emergency orders to December 1st and which affects each and every individual in this province, the majority did not or could not be bothered to vote on this issue.
Now, that certainly demonstrates how dysfunctional our government has become. Doug Ford himself abstained. Simply disgusting.
Unlike Parliament, the Ontario Legislature decided against on-line sittings during the pandemic. To maintain COVID social distancing protocols the parties agreed on a rotation of members consistent with party standings. Just because an MPP wasn't in the house does not mean they "could not be bothered" to vote on the issue. They weren't there because it wasn't their turn to be there.
Secondly, Ford did not "abstain." He was absent. There's a difference.
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June 4th, 2021, 08:03 AM
#25
Will they do this ?? This is what we need .
"I told the people the truth
I spelled out what had to be done, and we did it
Intellectual honesty and integrity, that is how we ran the city
And that's how we will continue to run this city"
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June 4th, 2021, 09:06 AM
#26

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Unlike Parliament, the Ontario Legislature decided against on-line sittings during the pandemic. To maintain COVID social distancing protocols the parties agreed on a rotation of members consistent with party standings. Just because an MPP wasn't in the house does not mean they "could not be bothered" to vote on the issue. They weren't there because it wasn't their turn to be there.
Secondly, Ford did not "abstain." He was absent. There's a difference.
This is a gross misrepresentation of the people.
Everyone works online where deemed feasible to do so. Each and every MPP has access to technology that allows them to stay connected.
The excuse that they need to be there in person for such an important vote is inexcusable.
They could easily have done a rotation of individuals that morning. Let's say every 5 minutes.
They are paid by the electorate to do a job and they dropped the ball big time.
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June 4th, 2021, 10:36 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
impact
This is a gross misrepresentation of the people.
Everyone works online where deemed feasible to do so. Each and every MPP has access to technology that allows them to stay connected.
The excuse that they need to be there in person for such an important vote is inexcusable.
They could easily have done a rotation of individuals that morning. Let's say every 5 minutes.
They are paid by the electorate to do a job and they dropped the ball big time.
A rotation of individuals for one vote would be contrary to the standing orders. When the division bells calling the members to vote stop the order is given to seal the doors, no one goes into the chamber or out so rotating members through on the same vote wouldn't be feasible.
The practice of "pairing" where members of the opposition and government agree not to participate in a vote is quite common in elected bodies as long as the representative percentages of the house remain the same. In any event this vote was going to pass no matter whether all or a portion of the MPPs were in the house.
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June 5th, 2021, 06:58 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
In any event this vote was going to pass no matter whether all or a portion of the MPPs were in the house.
Can you provide proof of for your assertion? Otherwise it is your opinion only.
Here is mine from MPP Randy Hillier who actually bothered to vote on this issue.
"Interestingly, despite 16 NDP members having been public in opposing these emergency powers they stayed home rather than vote, their votes could have defeated the motion. Contrary to the spin they’re all trying to tell, there is nothing preventing every member of the House from voting during COVID. There are many lies being told over the last 15 months."
https://www.facebook.com/randy.hillier
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June 6th, 2021, 06:46 AM
#29
Standing orders on votes are clear. One vote and no one goes in or out.
What Hillier is talking about is the NDP breaking the agreement reached among the house leaders on attendance during the pandemic. Had the NDP broken the agreement the government could easily have delayed the vote until it could summon a sufficient number of its members.
That vote was going to pass no matter what Hillier claims.
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June 6th, 2021, 06:25 PM
#30

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
That vote was going to pass no matter what Hillier claims.
OK, so you just confirmed. The government is corrupt and governed by a chosen few!