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March 7th, 2021, 11:40 AM
#121
I have a matched set of golf club irons,with swastikas on them. Made in the 30’s in St. Andrews Scotland. They caused quite a stir on a golf historians site , that I am a member of. For various reasons.
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March 7th, 2021 11:40 AM
# ADS
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March 7th, 2021, 11:52 AM
#122
Good observation from Rex Murphy...
The woke of our day are Cromwellian, or if you prefer Leninist, in their furious certitudes; they wish to condemn, and seek to ostracize from historical memory the very people who brought our magnificent liberties to life. Those before us were never perfect. But it would be prudent to be hesitant about proclaiming that they were less than we are; that they were not as good, or as intelligent or, to use the word par excellence of the moment, that they were not as “sensitive.”
How many people in this day and age can honestly say that, if they were living in earlier times, they would not act and think as people acted and thought back then? These current obsessions are, to say the least, undignified.
The current purge of the unenlightened — via progressive censorship, internet blocking, dismissal from corporations or universities, ostracism — are unworthy of the inheritance of freedom and democracy the countries of the West have received through the blood, sweat and tears of those who came before us.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex...lliberal-dogma
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March 7th, 2021, 12:01 PM
#123
I suspect to one degree or another, people are rationalizing this, based on their own ages ( adult) and being capable of determining what is acceptable and what isn’t. And what children see and absorb.
The difference between “Baby its cold outside” or Archie Bunker and diagrams of oral/anal for grade schoolers. Hard to argue being against that, but uptight about this.
whether it’s “this”, or “rape culture” and teen boys. Or racism.
“Apples don’t fall far”
Last edited by JBen; March 7th, 2021 at 12:05 PM.
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March 7th, 2021, 12:03 PM
#124

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
That is the failed argument of neo-Nazis who wanted to parade around under the swastika. Didn't work then and doesn't work now.
Well don't let facts stand in the way of ideology.
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March 7th, 2021, 12:08 PM
#125
Another good opinion...
Nevertheless, pervasive racial imagery and subservient typecasting remain. That doesn’t mean Dr Seuss books should — or can — be scrapped altogether. Instead, these books present an opportunity to build awareness and teach young readers about history and context.
Dr Seuss’s work contains racism and xenophobia, but should we judge him by today’s standards?
Children’s literature has always been subject to socio-historical shifts. It is a product of its time and the context in which it is created. Viewed through the changing lens of history, childhood itself is an unstable concept.
In other words, it is impossible to separate children’s literature from the ideological structure of our world, and from the particular historical moment in which it is produced.
While Dr Seuss’s best-loved characters — the Cat in the Hat, Horton the elephant, the Grinch — have earned their place in the canon, what we should be concerned about is the question of diversity in children’s literature.
https://theconversation.com/cat-in-a...culture-156378
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March 7th, 2021, 12:17 PM
#126

Originally Posted by
MikePal
That's the point I was trying to make. Thanks. I read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn When I was 10 or 11years old it taught me what racism is and was like in the old days on the banks of the Mississippi.
Last edited by WillieBeno; March 7th, 2021 at 12:55 PM.
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March 7th, 2021, 12:44 PM
#127

Originally Posted by
WillieBeno
That's point I was trying to make. Thanks. I read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn When I was 10 or 11years old it taught me what racism is and was like in the old days on the banks of the Mississippi.
That is what some here aren't seeing...when our children are being read a book in class and something comes up that needs the context to be explained by teacher it should be embraced as a teaching point. Children aren't naturally 'racist' so they need to be taught why it's wrong.
Removing their exposure to it, is not the right way to teach them.
If you don't teach them...they'll end up in Diversity Training as adults
Last edited by MikePal; March 7th, 2021 at 01:05 PM.
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March 7th, 2021, 01:04 PM
#128

Originally Posted by
MikePal
That is what some here aren't seeing...when our children are being read a book in class and something comes up that needs the context to be explained by teacher it should be embraced as a teaching point. Children aren't naturally 'racist' so they need to be taught why it's wrong.
Removing their exposure to it, is not the right way to teach them.
Exactly! What lessons have been learned if it wasn't for making mistakes? Just who is this on this cancel culture committee.
https://www.facebook.com/TheDrOfComm...79503609645525
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March 8th, 2021, 05:50 AM
#129
A big part of the left's problem is their inability to understand context and this thread is full of it.
There is saying, "He was a good man in his time". It's all about context. If we look at these things in the context of their time there isn't an issue, it's history, and a learning moment. To erase these things is to erase the opportunity to learn from it. Just because someone owned slaves in their time does not mean they need to be erased from history.
Some of you talk like these books are still on the shelves in elementary schools. Show me this and I will be as outraged as you. If not, your outrage is misplaced and it's just virtue signaling douchebaggery.
Last edited by Jakezilla; March 8th, 2021 at 08:27 AM.
OFAH, CSSA, NFA
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March 8th, 2021, 07:46 AM
#130

Originally Posted by
MikePal
That is what some here aren't seeing...when our children are being read a book in class and something comes up that needs the context to be explained by teacher it should be embraced as a teaching point. Children aren't naturally 'racist' so they need to be taught why it's wrong.
Removing their exposure to it, is not the right way to teach them.
If you don't teach them...they'll end up in Diversity Training as adults

The intent of Dr. Seuss books is not to as an aid to teach children about racism but to help them learn to read. There are other books, including some of Dr. Seuss', that still can be used for this purpose. There are books better suited to explain the concepts of racism and bigotry to young children than the now withdrawn Dr. Seuss books.