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February 24th, 2021, 11:01 PM
#31

Originally Posted by
warpipe
No worries, by the time this government gets us vaccinated we'll have the whole worlds data to study.
^^Most true statement in the entire thread.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 24th, 2021 11:01 PM
# ADS
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February 25th, 2021, 05:48 AM
#32
The vaccines effects are being studied.
My specialty is diagnostic imaging and I can tell you that this report is very troubling.
Vaccine side effects may affect mammograms
"Routine mammograms should be done either before the first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine or four-to-six weeks after the second dose, the Society for Breast Imaging advises. The vaccines’ temporary side effects can include swollen lymph nodes around the armpits, which could be misread as a possible sign of breast cancer if it turns up on a mammogram. So-called axillary lymphadenopathy is usually seen in only 0.02%-0.04% of screening mammograms, according to the Society’s guidelines. In trials of the Moderna vaccine, the condition developed in 11.6% of participants after the first dose and in 16% after the second dose. Researchers testing the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine did not routinely ask participants about armpit tenderness and lymph node swelling, but some people reported this side effect, which lasted an average of 10 days. More subtle effects on lymph nodes that are evident only on X-rays are likely to last longer, the Society said, although it is not clear yet what vaccination-related lymph node changes would look like. “As more information about the incidence and appearance of axillary lymphadenopathy following COVID-19 vaccination becomes available, it may be appropriate to change the duration of follow-up or final assessment recommendations,” the Society said."
https://ottawasun.com/health/some-co...covid-19-study
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February 25th, 2021, 06:40 AM
#33
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fishfood
We really should think about it. Instead of just being told to shut up and take it.
More questions then answers...
Let’s awaken some people’s minds ...
What happens if you decide to get "vaccinated" (beside the fact that you could end up very sick or even dead)???
Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:
●"If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?"
Goverment: "NO" excuse
●"If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like normal?
Government: "NO"
●"If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?"
Government: "Maybe. We don't know exactly, but probably not."
●"If I get vaccinated, at least I won't be contagious to others - right?"
Government: "NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission."
●"If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?"
Government: "No one knows. All Covid "vaccines" are still in the experimental stage."
● "If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?"
Government: "NO"
● "If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?"
Government: "NO"
● "So what's the benefit of getting vaccinated?"
Government: "Hoping that the virus won't kill you."
●"Are you sure the vaccine won't injure or kill me?"
Government: "NO"
●"If statistically the virus won't kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?"
Government: "To protect others."
●"So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?"
Government: "NO"
● "If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine will I (or my family) be compensated from the vaccine manufacture or the Government?"
Government: "NO - the government and vaccine manufactures have 100% zero liability regarding this experimental drug"
So to summarize, the Covid19 "vaccine"...
Does not provide immunity
Does not eliminate the virus
Does not prevent death
Does not guarantee you won’t get it
Does not stop you from passing it on to others
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans
Does not eliminate the need for business closures
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns
Does not eliminate to vvgt share...
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NO THANKS.
I think I will be safer wearing a mask instead...lmao
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February 25th, 2021, 07:03 AM
#34
It’s the end of Feb. I don’t think we’re anywhere close, to having vaccinated front line workers or the at risk. At a guess, mid summer before the gen pop has to decide. I guess if there’s an upside to the Feds bumbling, we will have mountains of data thanks to the rest of the world.
Impact.
My fiancé is screened regularly. Mamograms are of no use. Can’t screen what’s not there
I’ll let her know about lymph nodes.
Will say, she plans to get it. But is in no rush to join the que
Last edited by JBen; February 25th, 2021 at 07:05 AM.
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February 25th, 2021, 07:18 AM
#35

Originally Posted by
warpipe
It's like everything else, the government will force you into compliance. No vaccination forget about crossing the border. Kids aren't vaccinated they won't be going to school, playing sports. Health care employment, vaccination required. No worries, by the time this government gets us vaccinated we'll have the whole worlds data to study.
Yup. Anti-vaxx kooks are going to find their activities seriously limited. No international travel, no sporting events, no concerts, no volunteering, no doctors or dentists, maybe not even movies or restaurants. Your vaccination card will be like American Express: "Don't leave home without it." The real benefit will be at the airport. Fewer imbeciles in the security line.
Eventually this will all pass and anti-vaxx kooks can go back to worrying about EMF, Bill Gates, microchips, fluoride in the water and whether tinfoil is on sale.
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February 25th, 2021, 07:21 AM
#36

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Yup. Anti-vaxx kooks are going to find their activities seriously limited. No international travel, no sporting events, no concerts, no volunteering, no doctors or dentists, maybe not even movies or restaurants. Your vaccination card will be like American Express: "Don't leave home without it." The real benefit will be at the airport. Fewer imbeciles in the security line.
Eventually this will all pass and anti-vaxx kooks can go back to worrying about EMF, Bill Gates, microchips, fluoride in the water and whether tinfoil is on sale.
Yep, spoken like the propaganda government agent that you truly are.
No substance to your comment except fear mongering.
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February 25th, 2021, 07:48 AM
#37

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Yup. Anti-vaxx kooks are going to find their activities seriously limited.
They (other countries) have already backed down on that rhetoric as it won't hold up to Human rights complaints. Once the pandemic is over they isn't a medical /health emergency they will not have the right restrict activities.
And by the way, it's isn't 'anti-vaxxers' who are stepping back, it's people with enough common sense to question a vaccine that has not been used before or thoroughly tested.
But we do thank you for participating in the trails, hope all goes well.
Last edited by MikePal; February 25th, 2021 at 08:08 AM.
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February 25th, 2021, 08:02 AM
#38

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Yup. Anti-vaxx kooks are going to find their activities seriously limited. No international travel, no sporting events, no concerts, no volunteering, no doctors or dentists, maybe not even movies or restaurants. Your vaccination card will be like American Express: "Don't leave home without it." The real benefit will be at the airport. Fewer imbeciles in the security line.
Eventually this will all pass and anti-vaxx kooks can go back to worrying about EMF, Bill Gates, microchips, fluoride in the water and whether tinfoil is on sale.
So let me get this straight, because a person questions what an obviously lying government tells them, it makes them kooks? Because someone questions what they are being told by someone who is in bed with a Chinese dictator, it makes them a kook?
We have near zero honesty in any level of government at the moment and it makes one a kook to think for themselves.
How is it one careless cigarette can cause a forest fire, but it takes a whole box of matches to light a campfire?
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February 25th, 2021, 08:29 AM
#39

Originally Posted by
oaknut
So let me get this straight, because a person questions what an obviously lying government tells them, it makes them kooks? Because someone questions what they are being told by someone who is in bed with a Chinese dictator, it makes them a kook?
We have near zero honesty in any level of government at the moment and it makes one a kook to think for themselves.
What anti-vaxx kooks are questioning is decades of scientific research into vaccines and their proven efficacy in saving lives. COVID is just their current hobby horse. They won't take ANY vaccine.
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February 25th, 2021, 08:33 AM
#40

Originally Posted by
MikePal
They (other countries) have already backed down on that rhetoric as it won't hold up to Human rights complaints. Once the pandemic is over they isn't a medical /health emergency they will not have the right restrict activities.
And by the way, it's isn't 'anti-vaxxers' who are stepping back, it's people with enough common sense to question a vaccine that has not been used before or thoroughly tested.
But we do thank you for participating in the trails, hope all goes well.

Private companies can set health-related conditions on who enters their property. Public health units can issue orders. Governments can impose restrictions on activities pertaining to health. Nations can definitely limit who enters their territory.
Millions of people already have been vaccinated. The adverse effects are infinitesimal relative to the adverse effects of being infected with COVID-19.