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February 24th, 2021, 03:00 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
impact
The stats are for the US. ? 65 million doses divided by 2. So, 32.5 million people have received a useless mRNA injection....lol
From Moderna themselves....
"The Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID‑19) for use in individuals 18 years of age and older.
There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID‑19."
"The EUA for the Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine is in effect for the duration of the COVID‑19 EUA declaration justifying emergency use of the product, unless the declaration is terminated or the authorization is revoked sooner."
https://www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/
16000 out of 32500000 equates to about 1 in 2000 or 0.05 percent. Over the counter aspirin comes in at 1 to 2 percent adverse. That makes the vaccine 20 to 40 times safer than aspirin.
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February 24th, 2021 03:00 PM
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February 24th, 2021, 03:36 PM
#12
I like my odds better. 0% chance of the vaccine making me sick.
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February 24th, 2021, 03:50 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
impact
I like my odds better. 0% chance of the vaccine making me sick.

So you are now one of the people who is causing the measles to make a come back, so sad.
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February 24th, 2021, 03:52 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
impact
I like my odds better. 0% chance of the vaccine making me sick.

That's your perogative. I guess that means you have never taken a prescription or over the counter meds for anything as they almost all have a higher adverse incident rate than the vaccine.
Even most herbal/homeopathic remedies have more adverse affects. I guess you must avoid those as well.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 24th, 2021, 04:24 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
Species8472
That's your perogative. I guess that means you have never taken a prescription or over the counter meds for anything as they almost all have a higher adverse incident rate than the vaccine.
Even most herbal/homeopathic remedies have more adverse affects. I guess you must avoid those as well.
Assumptions on your part. I did get the seasonal flu vaccine last November. I also take prescription meds and daily vitamins.
No side effects on anything.
My goal is to enlighten people who then should question the vaccine project.
When I read statements involving government agencies like those two, red flags go up.
"We have strategic alliances with Merck on select commercial vaccines, and BARDA and DARPA on global health vaccine programs."
https://www.modernatx.com/modalities...mmuno-oncology
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February 24th, 2021, 04:40 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
impact
Assumptions on your part. I did get the seasonal flu vaccine last November. I also take prescription meds and daily vitamins.
No side effects on anything.
My goal is to enlighten people who then should question the vaccine project.
When I read statements involving government agencies like those two, red flags go up.
"We have strategic alliances with Merck on select commercial vaccines, and BARDA and DARPA on global health vaccine programs."
https://www.modernatx.com/modalities...mmuno-oncology
"0 percent chance of getting sick from the vaccine"
It is logical to assume if you apply a consistent standard to all medical treatments. They all have risks and most generate adverse affects more frequently than the vaccine.
It is inconsistent on your part to accept the higher risk of adverse affects from other treatments.
Like I said it's your perogative but than seems inconsistent to me if you accept other higher risk treatments especially when you state "0 percent chance."
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 24th, 2021, 04:50 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
Species8472
"0 percent chance of getting sick from the vaccine"
It is logical to assume if you apply a consistent standard to all medical treatments. They all have risks and most generate adverse affects more frequently than the vaccine.
It is inconsistent on your part to accept the higher risk of adverse affects from other treatments.
Like I said it's your perogative but than seems inconsistent to me if you accept other higher risk treatments especially when you state "0 percent chance."
I have a tendency to read the label before taking any kind of product.
So in that respect I am consistent.
Not liking the fine print on this one.
I'm a man of science.
Do you really trust the politicians with your health?
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February 24th, 2021, 04:52 PM
#18
Impact were you vaccinated as a Kid and if you have kids did you get them vaccinated?
Have you ever looked at the data sheets?
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February 24th, 2021, 04:55 PM
#19

Originally Posted by
impact
Do you really trust the politicians with your health?
No.
Perhaps instead of only settling for 0 percent risk you mean 0.05 percent risk outweighs any potential benefit.
Than applying risk/benefit analysis on a case by case basis you chose acceptable treatments which regardless of risks posed would allow you to be consistent.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 24th, 2021, 05:12 PM
#20
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Species8472
"0 percent chance of getting sick from the vaccine"
It is logical to assume if you apply a consistent standard to all medical treatments. They all have risks and most generate adverse affects more frequently than the vaccine.
It is inconsistent on your part to accept the higher risk of adverse affects from other treatments.
Like I said it's your perogative but than seems inconsistent to me if you accept other higher risk treatments especially when you state "0 percent chance."
The one problem, how do you apply a consistent standard to these vaccines as they have bypassed the safety standards and testing unlike all other medications? Why do you still have to wear a mask after you've been vaccinated, doesn't add up imo.
Medicine thats been properly tested and approved, many people are more then willing to take. Many adverse side effects are already known through testing an approval.
These new vaccines have bypassed the standard for approval. Health Canada approved them instantly and the makers have zero liability for their product. Consumer's take at own risk.
I don't believe the whole country will be lining up to become part of an experiment, not myself anyways.