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December 4th, 2020, 05:52 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
sawbill
Made in Canada is not always what you expect. I read an article a while back (and I may get some of my facts wrong here) where a product was made in Mexico or China or some other place, shipped back here then packaged. That was legal enough to label the package as made in Canada even though the actual product came from elsewhere.
But I do my thing to buy at least North American and its darn tough to get what you want. Try buying clothing or tools thats not made in China. Try finding hooks or lure making components that are not coming from China. And when it comes to this Huwaway Co. or whatever their name is to actually be considered by this present government to be allowed in our country while they hold the two hostages! You have no idea how much I burn when that comes up in the news.
Yes that is true some of the package may be made in Canada but what is in the package could be from overseas.
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December 4th, 2020 05:52 PM
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December 4th, 2020, 06:53 PM
#12
Same thing with Canadian wine-i think one needs 10 % of Canada grown grapes to qualify for a"Canadian "wine label or title.................no surprise so may wineyards are everywhere,some of a size of a soccer field,making a living
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December 4th, 2020, 07:08 PM
#13
I don't worry as much about the technicality of it, if a company says Canadian at least you know *some* of the money/ jobs/ taxes are distributed here. It's better than nothing as far as I'm concerned. As long as people make an effort it will hopefully keep some business here. Plenty of auto companies have given me a steady paycheque over the years even if the majority of production is in other countries. The food and beverage industry seems to be very strong in Ontario the past few years as well.
(Packaging industry also employs Canadians)
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December 10th, 2020, 07:20 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
sawbill
Made in Canada is not always what you expect. I read an article a while back (and I may get some of my facts wrong here) where a product was made in Mexico or China or some other place, shipped back here then packaged. That was legal enough to label the package as made in Canada even though the actual product came from elsewhere.
But I do my thing to buy at least North American and its darn tough to get what you want. Try buying clothing or tools thats not made in China. Try finding hooks or lure making components that are not coming from China. And when it comes to this Huwaway Co. or whatever their name is to actually be considered by this present government to be allowed in our country while they hold the two hostages! You have no idea how much I burn when that comes up in the news.
It’s actually incredible how many things are NOT made in Canada. It burns me that we as a country and most of the world has outsourced just about all of our manufacturing to one region of the world in the name of cost cutting. Can we agree that most things made in Asia are cheaply made and designed to break. This is one giant interconnected snowball effect. We are polluting at record levels. How often does a cheaply made product end up in the garbage. It’s cheaper to throw out and buy new rather than fix something. I’m more than willing to buy Canadian/ North American if it’s quality. It is getting harder to find such products.
As a side note, what was the world thinking by concentrating most of the manufacturing in one area? We are now years behind if we ever wanted to setup an efficient manufacturing hub of our own. We literally handed a good chunk of power to areas we don’t necessarily trust and that have views that differ from our own. Plus all the money that filters through this area. It’s crazy how we created a Frankenstein and are now, and will be paying for it, for years to come.
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December 10th, 2020, 08:18 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
It’s actually incredible how many things are NOT made in Canada. It burns me that we as a country and most of the world has outsourced just about all of our manufacturing to one region of the world in the name of cost cutting. Can we agree that most things made in Asia are cheaply made and designed to break. This is one giant interconnected snowball effect. We are polluting at record levels. How often does a cheaply made product end up in the garbage. It’s cheaper to throw out and buy new rather than fix something. I’m more than willing to buy Canadian/ North American if it’s quality. It is getting harder to find such products.
As a side note, what was the world thinking by concentrating most of the manufacturing in one area? We are now years behind if we ever wanted to setup an efficient manufacturing hub of our own. We literally handed a good chunk of power to areas we don’t necessarily trust and that have views that differ from our own. Plus all the money that filters through this area. It’s crazy how we created a Frankenstein and are now, and will be paying for it, for years to come.
Canada holds many, if not most of the natural resources required to make this cheap crap, we give it to the area you mention then buy it back in a shiny plastic package.
95% of Canadians are at fault for wanting this garbage, cheaper. We have dug the hole we live in.
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December 10th, 2020, 08:22 AM
#16
I don't think you can claim that most things made in Asia, It depends on the Quality most electronics are made in Asia, My TV is 10 years old so far and still going (made in China). Tools like wrenches, pliers etc most are made in China. I have bought "Cheap" Chinese stuff and Cheap made in the US stuff. My washer and dryer made in Canada the matching set the washer broke after 5 years not repairable.
My buddy bought a pair of exhaust fans nice quality made in Canada but it was 200 bucks cheaper to buy them from the US (Why??? when they were made in Canada).
I can buy roofing metal 5 - 10 times cheaper in the US then Canada that is a considerable difference. The company I deal with their price went down in Canada ours went up.
Clothes most are made in Asia.
I disagree with the belief that all Asia products are cheap it still comes down to what level of quality you buy.

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
It’s actually incredible how many things are NOT made in Canada. It burns me that we as a country and most of the world has outsourced just about all of our manufacturing to one region of the world in the name of cost cutting. Can we agree that most things made in Asia are cheaply made and designed to break. This is one giant interconnected snowball effect. We are polluting at record levels. How often does a cheaply made product end up in the garbage. It’s cheaper to throw out and buy new rather than fix something. I’m more than willing to buy Canadian/ North American if it’s quality. It is getting harder to find such products.
As a side note, what was the world thinking by concentrating most of the manufacturing in one area? We are now years behind if we ever wanted to setup an efficient manufacturing hub of our own. We literally handed a good chunk of power to areas we don’t necessarily trust and that have views that differ from our own. Plus all the money that filters through this area. It’s crazy how we created a Frankenstein and are now, and will be paying for it, for years to come.
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December 10th, 2020, 08:36 AM
#17
As I showed in another post....we import $57 Billion in goods from China that fill all our Box stores (Walmart, CT, Home depot etc etc.) That money doesn't stay in Canada ( a lot of them are owned by US corps). There is no Canadian economic stimulation other than low income retail jobs.
To stop buying from China would mean : NO Boxes stores No TV's No computers No smart phones etc etc....we'd be back to Bicycle ( if we could resurrect CCM ) and Mom's homemade clothes.
If you watched Dragons Den....you saw how business investments are done...find a cheap labour force to give to the biggest profit margins. Canadians are anything but cheap labour, we can't afford to have anything made here anymore ...a least not what Canadians can afford to buy.
Last edited by MikePal; December 10th, 2020 at 09:57 AM.
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December 10th, 2020, 09:19 AM
#18
Just a thought, but maybe greed and capitalism isn’t working the way it should, or was meant to. Maybe it’s working against us.
If we sell the resources that are required to make goods, then buy back the made goods at a higher price we lose out. We lose jobs to make the item, we create a bigger divide of the people that can afford the item, and the only ones making money are the sellers of the item. So the little guy loses, am I right?
So the equation is imbalanced and will slowly but surely lead into the negatives.
To correct the equation we need it to balance. To balance it we need to make stuff here, pay a decent wage to the workers who are making it, and the corporations have to be willing to make less profit (just less, not an elimination of profit). Turn of the century Ford comes to mind. I’m paraphrasing but old Henry said that something about building a vehicle even his employees could afford.
None of this will be easy, it will take a mental and social change of the population. Maybe we’re not ready, maybe it’s not possible, I don’t know. Maybe the system is working fine and I’m way off base.
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December 10th, 2020, 10:05 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Just a thought, but maybe greed and capitalism isn’t working the way it should, or was meant to. Maybe it’s working against us.
If you have Netflix...give this a watch...it tells you how and why we're screwed... ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqkjyI1QD2A
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December 10th, 2020, 12:23 PM
#20

Originally Posted by
MikePal
As I showed in another post....we import $57 Billion in goods from China that fill all our Box stores (Walmart, CT, Home depot etc etc.) That money doesn't stay in Canada ( a lot of them are owned by US corps). There is no Canadian economic stimulation other than low income retail jobs.
To stop buying from China would mean : NO Boxes stores No TV's No computers No smart phones etc etc....we'd be back to Bicycle ( if we could resurrect CCM ) and Mom's homemade clothes.
If you watched Dragons Den....you saw how business investments are done...find a cheap labour force to give to the biggest profit margins. Canadians are anything but cheap labour, we can't afford to have anything made here anymore ...a least not what Canadians can afford to buy.
And $57 billion worth of junk goes to our garbage dumps ... what an environmental disaster that is.