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November 17th, 2020, 09:36 AM
#21
Let's take a look at wealth, if you had taken away all of Elon's Wealth would SpaceX exist or Tesla in fact most of the technology we have today would never have been invented.
You realize that technology does not just appear out of no place.

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
W.R... I would like to see it balanced better than 90-10%. How about we truly share the entire worlds wealth amongst as many people as we can. Like that tiny country in Africa that produces a mineral essential to all the worlds cell phones. Their citizens live a life of poverty while the world takes that natural resource for peanuts. Spread the worlds wealth for the betterment of all mankind. Our standard of living is unsustainable, even if we don't try to bring others out of their third world standard of living.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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November 17th, 2020 09:36 AM
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November 17th, 2020, 09:46 AM
#22
More like his opportunity for a guaranteed income to win votes for the unemployable and ways to tax the hell out of those of us that are still working to provide for our families.
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November 17th, 2020, 09:52 AM
#23

Originally Posted by
mosquito
"COVID is an opportunity for a reset, this is our chance" ... World Economic Forum ..... Trudeau speaks and confirms what the media has been saying is a conspiracy theory (ignoring the World Economic Forum etc) but our PM speaks, World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, the great reset of economies etc. .... hmmm
"an opportunity" ....."our chance" .... what a **********censored ********** worshipper of tyrants and dictators!
Trudeau says COVID is an opportunity for a "reset" on poverty etc.... sounds like Justlied has bought into the 2030 World Economic Forums "you will own nothing and be happy" sh**.!
https://twitter.com/rlee7995/status/1327657048415334400
He wants so bad to be the Leader for life like Fidel or Mao but in Canada but he is just too incompetent to keep his mouth shut but his accomplices are working hard for him and I am sure a socialist agenda and loss of rights will be spun into a good thing by CBC and some of the media!
The news feeds have been going on about this, from Tucker Carlson
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/...atch_permalink
Postmillenial
https://thepostmillennial.com/a-grea...with-democracy
and a few more from around the world Australia Sky News
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=640789663283987
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/...atch_permalink
Oh and let's see what the World Economic Forum Trudeau mentioned says about it.....
the
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...a-great-reset/
Now is the time for a 'great reset'
In every crisis, there is an opportunity
Klaus Schwab
Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum
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To achieve a better outcome, the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset” of capitalism.
or the 2030 agenda... 9 years and 2 months from now...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/...-what-that-is/
Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
SO what do you think .... ready for no privacy, no future, no freedoms and no personal property? Seems many want it including our PM Justlied silly socks Trudeau!
Trudeau doesn't want to be a leader like Fidel ... he doesn't have the balls to be that. All he wants is to get rich ... and play nice boy to the whole world to disguise his selfish interests.
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November 17th, 2020, 09:54 AM
#24
Of course there should be a guaranteed income for those in the bottom 5 %. We were going to have a trail of that here in Ontario , until ford nixed it. Just because you're unemployable, you should not be forced to scramble for food and shelter...... to survive.
Last edited by fishermccann; November 17th, 2020 at 09:59 AM.
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November 17th, 2020, 10:02 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Let's take a look at wealth, if you had taken away all of Elon's Wealth would SpaceX exist or Tesla in fact most of the technology we have today would never have been invented.
You realize that technology does not just appear out of no place.
I guess that's why musk cut the wages of his employees during this pandemic, while his worth rose astronomically. To fund 'research'. lol.
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November 17th, 2020, 10:17 AM
#26
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
MarkB
Trudeau doesn't want to be a leader like Fidel ... he doesn't have the balls to be that. All he wants is to get rich ... and play nice boy to the whole world to disguise his selfish interests.
Well he would still get that of course, trips around the world, vacations... all funded of course. He took over 20% of the working days off last year as the PM so who said anything would change... just dancing and wearing socks as he goes along!
Let's see.... based on what they openly say at the World Economic Forum... you know that big event in Davos where the Liberal's went...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...-nearly-70000/
well they openly say
No possessions
No privacy
... so essentially like Cuba and other Communist countries where freedoms and private property are not allowed... essentially a gov't owned and gov't controlled people .... there are people so pathetic they would like that it seems and of course our elites like Trudeau etc. at the top living the life of luxury.
No need to work hard or innovate just do what you are told,including being told to be happy.... "own nothing" ... so forget working hard to give your kids a leg up or saving grandpa's old shotgun... they would be gone in their ideal.
Works in Cuba ... NOT!
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...tic-ties_58362
Tens of thousands of Cubans have fled since President Barack Obama announced the normalization of relations between the countries in late 2014.
Last edited by mosquito; November 17th, 2020 at 10:27 AM.
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November 17th, 2020, 10:38 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
kokes
you are so naieve....but maybe you'll like what justin is trying to do, under his UN puppet masters Justin will try and achieve 1% of the worlds population will own 99% of the worlds wealth..maybe then you will be happy
I still do not understand the ultimate objective though. The world's top 1% can basically buy what they want right now ... anything they want. So, what does it change if they own the whole world? There lifestyle won't change ... it can't get any better than it is right now, not unless technology introduces something fascinating like time travel ... or transportation ...
And even if it is simply about becoming more powerful ... that is a pretty stupid game ... because in the end, it can only be 1 person that controls everything as the goal .... so that means everyone but 1 person in the top 1% must lose. Maybe that is the game ... they are just stirring up some excitement to see who wins that race to ultimate supremacy over EVERYONE else in the world ...
Anyhow, I just don't see what the purpose is when the goal is just to become more rich.
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November 17th, 2020, 11:21 AM
#28
Has too much time on their hands
NO they do not. It I snot our responsibility to look after them - case in point First Nations Safe drinking water...how many year it has been promised, and yet Trudeau has dished billions of dollars to other countries. It the people who are responsible for their own welfare. By your methodology - my son is poor and I want you to raise his level of income by giving more of what you earn to him. If you dont agree to raise him up with your money, then your statement is false and is just virtue signalling. I/We owe you nothing and you are responsible for own life, as with those in other countries. Those government are responsible. What you propose is called wealth redistribution - and part of communist doctrine that everything is owned by the state and you get a percentage. Man your commie colors are showing hard now. You tell me, how much of my hard work and wealth are you entitled to???

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
What an industrialized nation point of view. In many parts of the world, there is no work, or money to pay for doing it. Do those fellow humans not deserve food and shelter, hope and potential? Time to reset the world economy, 10% of the worlds population should not have 90% of the worlds wealth. You are part of that 10% not because you work, but because of your place of birth, nothing more..
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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November 17th, 2020, 11:28 AM
#29
Has too much time on their hands
Toronto taxes are lower because the rest of provinces subsidizes TO, are you that dense not to understand this, the bulk of revenue collection is spread in GTA (coincidently the highest vote rich portion of Ontarowe), Land Transfer title tax is 3 levels across the province and benefits only TO under MPAC. Just go to the website and plug in differences based on property value. The rape of rural taxpayers continues.

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Taxes are the same everywhere, except property taxes. Toronto has the lowest property tax per $ value of the house, than any other place in the province. People are leaving the city because there are no places that they can afford to buy or rent.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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November 17th, 2020, 11:35 AM
#30

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Exactly, there for the grace of God go I. Some of these guys are so spoiled they don't know which way is up.Probably spent their lives in some rural backwater and are to paranoid to even go to a City.
Spoiled lol some yeah many no lol.
Why is just about who has mega money.
Maybe the union's killed the middle class?
Just remember it's a whole heck of alot easier to make mega bucks when you have a little bit .
There is a new millionaire every week and some can turn that million into 10 easy. You can then turn that 10 into 100 million
Others will blow it faster than it takes me to drink a 24 lol.
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