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May 5th, 2020, 06:21 PM
#51
Just saw this on FB.
Much closer to what we (imo) should be focusing on.
The Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights (CCFR) is calling for the immediate removal of Minister Bill Blair from the Public Safety file.
Following a reading of yesterday’s regulation banning a swath of semi-automatic firearms and a briefing with officials from Public Safety, CBSA, Global Affairs, RCMP and the Department of Justice, it was made abundantly clear that the regulations were crafted in haste, and that the government has neither planned nor formulated the rest of the legislation required to implement their hastily crafted policy. As a result, the regulation is both flawed and dangerous.
During the briefing the government could not answer simple questions about the methods used for selection, why bolt action firearms were included on the list, why some shotguns are caught in the bore diameter restrictions, why some rimfire firearms are listed contrary to the selection criteria, and on and on. They also stated that the government, on behalf of the Governor in Council, has deemed the list of firearms banned as “not suitable for hunting or sport shooting”, but simultaneously provided an exemption for indigenous owners for the purpose of hunting. Further, this is contrary to the decades-long history of these very firearms being safely used for hunting and sport shooting.
This entire regulation bears the mark of an irrational process done in haste, and it divides Canadians.
The CCFR further noted that some of the firearms listed in the regulation that are classified as prohibited have exactly the same specifications as other firearms not on the list. This is entirely random and proves without doubt, that the choices made were entirely political in nature. That is not a proper basis for legislation in a democracy.
There are also flaws in that no consideration has been given to firearm owners who may move residency within the amnesty period, since transporting of these prohibited firearms is not permitted.
The level of incompetence in this act by the Liberal government is astounding. As a result, we feel the Prime Minister and Canadians have been grossly under-served by the Minister and call for his immediate removal from over-seeing this process, and for the repealing of this regulation in order to consult technical experts.
In the interim, the CCFR recommends that Canadian firearm owners retain their firearms and NOT turn them in to the government. This deeply flawed process must be reversed immediately. Consultations with legal experts are ongoing.
And we agree, Blair needs to go!
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May 5th, 2020 06:21 PM
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May 5th, 2020, 06:29 PM
#52

Originally Posted by
410001661
Relax.......the sky is not falling
I think that this is going to be a stretch. The Bore is measured from 8-10" into the barrel not at the muzzle end of the shotgun barrel because that diameter will differ depending on the choke of the gun (which is completely different than measuring a bore of a shotgun barrel). Plus shotgun barrels that are threaded for chokes should have a choke in the barrel and never shot without a choke installed - so why would you measure it without a choke installed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbCnqkLjUE
Good question ! Answer: So they can ban it. Since they weren't very forth coming about the firearms the N.S. shooter used beyond the fact that one was a shotgun. It may have been a 12 gauge with a screw in choke. That way come election time they have a case history to justify their use of the OIC, because it was necessary to get such guns out of the public domain..
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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May 5th, 2020, 06:38 PM
#53

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May 5th, 2020, 06:42 PM
#54
Well there’s a huge surprise.

Whether they are in full blown damage control or not
immaterial.
Not for something like this.
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May 5th, 2020, 07:18 PM
#55
In Australia the 12 gage is a prohibited weapon.
As stated in a a post who ever shared the shot gun massacre. It clearly states that it was a prohibited firearm. Not sure why we would want laws like that here in Canada.
We wanted our laws like Australia and new Zealand right well
What's the problem?.
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May 5th, 2020, 07:25 PM
#56
Gotta shoot your deer now with a 410 [emoji8]
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May 5th, 2020, 09:27 PM
#57

Originally Posted by
fishfood
In Australia the 12 gage is a prohibited weapon.
I don’t think that is true. I think you can have a double barrel 12ga
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May 5th, 2020, 09:42 PM
#58

Originally Posted by
dilly
I don’t think that is true. I think you can have a double barrel 12ga
I was just going by the article it says in the ban of rapidl fire rifles and shot guns.
Thought I seen something about it being prohibited maybe it was the present one here in NS
But I guess I just seen shotgun bans mixed up lol.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/austr...ntl/index.html
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Last edited by fishfood; May 5th, 2020 at 09:57 PM.
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May 5th, 2020, 11:01 PM
#59

Originally Posted by
petebow89
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They should correct the misunderstanding to the population in a clear open-wide statement, not to the CSSA behind closed doors
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May 6th, 2020, 05:45 AM
#60

Originally Posted by
fishfood
I was just going by the article it says in the ban of rapidl fire rifles and shot guns.
Thought I seen something about it being prohibited maybe it was the present one here in NS
But I guess I just seen shotgun bans mixed up lol.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/austr...ntl/index.html
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In Austrailia pump shotguns are illegal, not the gauge.
Lever actions are not though, hence why all the lever action shotguns have come out again.