82 billion dollars

[JBen]

Hard to say Mosquito.
What is likely, and should be clear is that the end not in sight. Not by a long shot. Some seem to think, even a couple in this thread that the economy is going to surge back sometime soon...Every week, there’s more data, that showing its worse than economists initially estimated...

As for “re-opening the economy, and lifting restrictions..
Not happening soon given the stipulations that areas need to meet first, before restrictions can start being be eased. Whether tourism and Americans, or Asian’s, parts of the EU.....they aren’t coming back anytime soon....whether Oil, Gas and Alberta and more. Think back to October, when many sacrificed Alberta. Well they are going pay the price for that in the coming months, to two years. Our economy (the whole of it, is affected by that)

It further boggles the mind, our illustrious leader is parroting and allowing policy to be dictated by the WHO, UN. And watching Facebook, just as obvious many Canadians are indeed sheep. And that further, our own governments failures, are being swept under the rug, and Trump is a distraction.

Randy Hillier penned an open letter, yesterday that is spot on. If I can’t link it below, I’ll copy the whole text.

[JBen]

Worth the read and mostly spot on.

https://www.randyhilliermpp.com/2020...idcommandtable

[terrym]

Very interesting read. Everybody should read it.

[fratri]

Very interesting read. Everybody should read it.

I thought so too.... In fact I did a little more digging and came across this article, information piece.... It is a long read but you can skim through it and look at the numbers, charts... very interesting numbers.... If this is true, with all the empty beds, elective surgery should start up again...

https://www.fao-on.org/en/Blog/Publications/health-2020

[huntervinni]

that article is spot on.......I was asking myself the same questions. Something just doesn't add up here. The nonsense that we have to rely on the government to take care of us has to stop! People have to stop asking government to step in......we need less government not more.

[JBen]

Isn’t it though......

I suppose I could ruffle feathers, be blamed for more. But if your a politician in Ontario.....who has long been accused of cuts to the frontlines, wanting to privatize stuff.......that all the private facilities are closed. Especially in small town Ontario, where they don’t have large hospitals with capacity....

If your a politician in Ontario, and will be running again, fairly soon.....

There’s a few other things that might be mentioned about the lowly peons being hung out to dry ( PSWs, grocery clerks)...while highly paid people twiddle thumbs...

but optics and things matter. Like not pushing off unions...and having an electorate think you aren’t throwing a ton of money at “healthcare”....

Myself, I was being screened for cancer since Dec. while my “appt” for May 1st with a Hemotologist is on ( others cancelled indefinitely). It’s now a “telephone” appt...seriously? Not sure how checking my blood for cancer, Luekemia, a couple others will be done over the phone...

And as for all the um paradoxes........failure by the feds etc...”what more can be said”...

[fishfood]

Worth the read and mostly spot on.

https://www.randyhilliermpp.com/2020...idcommandtable

They were talking about sending the doctors in last week to the long term care,I guess that is just more talk and no action from our government.

I think I mentioned this last week that hospitals were not at full capacity.

Why are we still lacking test? They said 6 weeks ago they wanted 20 000 test done my mid April . Is almost may and we are only doing 12 000 a day . Well behind just like everything.

The USA built 150 000 ventilators way to many they are giving them to other places now . They are testing over 200 000 thousand a day looking for a way to test millions a day to get back and open up the economy. They Also have some empty beds but they made thousands even put almost 3000 thousand extra beds in new York. Next they are going to be working on the proper ppe supplies .



All talk and no show from our great government Easy for them to say I guess.







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[fishfood]

Mosq

The 2 empty planes was pathetic such a waste of money,time and effort. Like I said last week what is the storage facilities doing that our government is paying for

Holding and storing air.

We can't really put the blame on dc tam but we can put it on the entire WHO team. They are an organization that is supposed to work together and help the world. So far they have not helped in a good way . Same as any other pandemic they have come across. They shouldn't be hiding and covering up anything, they shouldn't be telling lies.


Bottom line is the Who can not be trusted as a whole if the top officials dont tell the truth. The usa ,China and Bill Gates are on the top of the organization's financial aid to run this. The usa pulled out as they should

So one of the top contributors thinks it's ok to give false information. They praised china for doing such a great job but instead forced them inside and locked them up. They didnt do a great job there government forced them and locked them up.

They did such a great job tho setting new standards for their country. Locked up like prisoners your dog pissing on the floor of the house .

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[fishfood]

Saw this the other day t was posted weeks ago before the the original video of fire Dc Tam before the USA pulled out of their funding to the who.


https://youtu.be/yvVutc9uHr8

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[MarkB]

Worth the read and mostly spot on.

https://www.randyhilliermpp.com/2020...idcommandtable

Good read and definitely has to be on the minds of everyone.
In hind site though, it's easy to pick on anything.

But no doubt ... there's a couple of things that were obvious from the beginning:

- the rules were inconsistent and even hypocritical ... okay to walk the dog, but not go fishing ... we are told to wash our hands 300 times a day, sanitize everything to the point that Clorox wipes are more rare than gold ... but there's no hygiene enforcement in grocery stores for instance there are people touching the crap out of vegetables with their bare hands (I personally saw a guy at Walmart with no gloves handle about 40 red onions, he was squeezing them ALL, just to take one or two to buy ... I exchanged words with him).
- there is/was a lack of common sense ... at first it's "BAD" to wear masks ... and then it was okay and in some places mandatory ... I was like ... yeah, I'm going to wear a mask if I want ... I always recall my father saying doctor's in the 70's were saying smoking was good for you ... it killed the bacteria in your lungs ... lol. No one should exclusively take advice from doctor's ... rather get a rounded opinion. No disrespect to doctor's here ... but health is complex.
- we need a balanced approach ... although I agree we had to be conservative in our approach to ensure we understood the consequences instead of dealing with them in retrospect ... I don't see much time spent in the past 7 weeks developing a logical plan to balance the risk of COVID with saving our economy. I think it's fair to say if we just listen to the doctors they'll have us stay locked up in our homes for 2 years, and we'll all be dead from starvation by then due to the greatest depression in history ... What has been done in terms of planning? I hear 90% - 95% about the same old, stay at home ... very little planning ... time is precious, and it was wasted. Here's what I would do ... identify high risk vs. low risk people (in terms of severe health consequences if they catch COVID). Send the low risk people back to work, and ensure we do things to slow the spread ... not to necessarily prevent contamination ... my thought is almost everyone will get it eventually ... you just don't want to inundate the health system, as some of those low risk people will still get it bad, and need to be treated. For those high risk (prevailing health issues, age, etc) ... need to accommodate them to AVOID contamination.

Anyhow, that was longer than I intended it to be.