Local company ignored, Wynne gov't sends contract for Ontario Ferry to Chile... Wynne gov't again...

[Fishy Wishy]

Why is cheaper to have it built in Chille and delivered here than a local building right here ?

Chilean slave labour rates. The kind of mix of low wages and corporate high profit Liberals abhor...Making this decision perfectly sensical for this administration.

[mosquito]

Chilean slave labour rates. The kind of mix of low wages and corporate high profit Liberals abhor...Making this decision perfectly sensical for this administration.

Chile isn't like Vietnam or Pakistan for their wages, the bid was within 5%... $2,000,000 .....a fraction of what the gov't would have recovered in income taxes and corporate taxes. One of the articles I read today pointed out one of the Atlantic Provinces was spending $3.8 million to help fund ship building in its province.

As for Chile's wages.. monthly
Factory and Manufacturing - 2,800,000 CLP Converted to CAD. $5444.35.... Take a 168 hour month.... $32.40 CAD, a descent wage I would say.
http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary...c=43&loctype=1

So it is either:
1) complete incompetence ....no consideration of taxes, economy.....

2) or a reason..... they can't define or explain so far......

3) or a slap in the face of an area that didn't vote Liebral.


The MPP for that area is clearly anti-carbon tax, has raised issues about the unsafe placement of windmills near airports.... including the Chatham Airport in his area and is a Conservative.... so I am betting 3.





http://blogs.windsorstar.com/open-ne...-jobs-to-chile
Did anyone from the Ministry of Transportation even bother to come to Wheatley to personally talk to the shipbuilder?


The question also applies to the shipbuilder in Chile. And who in the government will oversee this project? They also stated that the applicant did not meet the requirements.


Did these requirements have a hidden clause or small print somewhere?


Local resident Rick Chisholm even circulated a petition with 2,500 signatures for presentation to the MTO but to no avail. They responded with “petition or not, the contract will still go to Chile.”


My thoughts are quite simple and I’m sure everyone who has read about this travesty will agree with me: someone’s pockets have been quite handsomely lined.

[Hunter John]

Im voting 1, 2 and 3.

[B Wilson]

I am far from being a Wynne supporter, but you guys would have been ranting if the Ontario company won the bid for a higher cost.

not sure you can recover from squandering 2 billion by saving 2 million at a time, but it's a couple of hours of interest.

i think the guy got caught being a little to greedy

[mosquito]

I am far from being a Wynne supporter, but you guys would have been ranting if the Ontario company won the bid for a higher cost.

not sure you can recover from squandering 2 billion by saving 2 million at a time, but it's a couple of hours of interest.

i think the guy got caught being a little to greedy

but you do seem like you are being an apologist for what has become the LIE, incompetence and deceit party,

More likely he gave a good estimate with a reasonable profit margin and the decision makers are criminal or idiots or both.... no matter how you look at it isn't just $2million, it is that they wouldn't even let him bid without Quebec (possibly where the $2mil. was going) and it is $40,000,000 leaving Ontario in exchange for a ship that will have to be shipped 8,000 miles (instead of less than 50) through salt and fresh water.


Let's look at just what the gov't would get BACK the minimum corporate tax rate in Ontario is 4.5%... that alone is $1.8 million alone making up most of the 5% difference between Wheatley and Chile.

Assuming there is no Corp. profits/tax to make it easier, then say $20,000,000 is payroll and they pay just 20% as taxes in any form...I wish. there is $4,000,000. then we take the other $20,000,000 as materials and put on just the PST... $1.6 million. The economics loses, unemployment that will need to be paid to unemployed workers..... then throw in the lack of consideration to the impact of the families.

From today.
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/sh...ew-pelee-ferry
Andy Stanton, President and CEO of Hike Metal Products in Wheatley, and MPP Rick Nicholls (PC-Chatham-Kent-Essex) met with three representatives from the Ministry of Transportation Tuesday in London.

“They weren’t explicit with specific criteria,” Stanton said of the RFQ. “Some of the criteria wasn’t even requested. What am I supposed to be a mind reader? Because I didn’t cross that ‘T’ or dot that ‘I’ we’re disqualified?”


So it is either:
1) complete incompetence ....no consideration of taxes, economy.....

2) or a reason..... they can't define or explain REASONABLY ......

3) or a slap in the face of an area that didn't vote Liebral.

4) deliberate fraud (like they are already under investigation by OPP for).


Looks like 1,2 and 3.... 4.... possible... very possible

[terrym]

Should we call in the OPP?

[Fishy Wishy]

Should we call in the OPP?

I knew it....you are a complete homophobe.

[bushman]

I am far from being a Wynne supporter, but you guys would have been ranting if the Ontario company won the bid for a higher cost.

not sure you can recover from squandering 2 billion by saving 2 million at a time, but it's a couple of hours of interest.

i think the guy got caught being a little to greedy

. Who are you trying to kid???? Not a Wyyned Bag supporter!!!! Did you know its snowing right now Jamaica?? Honestly it is!!!

[Hunter John]

[mosquito]

Good news update, current Federal Gov't shows more intellect than Ontario Liberals...

Hike Metal Products awarded $43M contract to build Coast Guard ships
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/hi...st-guard-ships
A $43.4-million contract from the federal government announced Thursday has eased the sting of rejection for Hike Metal Products president Andy Stanton whose company didn’t qualify during the bidding process for a new Pelee Island ferry.

MP Dave Van Kesteren (C — Chatham-Kent Essex) said six search and rescue lifeboats, destined for use by the Canadian Coast Guard in the Maritimes, will be built at the Wheatley shipbuilding facility.

“I am proud to be part of the government that made the decision to build ships right here in Canada,” Van Kesteren said of the federal policy that mandates Canadian government vessels be built in Canada.

“The only advantage that (Hike) had was that they do good work and they came in with the best bid.”
...
He said he didn’t receive an adequate explanation from provincial representatives about why his company didn’t qualify to bid on the ferry project.

What did the government reps say? I feel they talked in riddles quite a bit,” Stanton said. “They seem to go very quiet when they got cornered on questions....

Canada has ship building on the East Coast, the West Coast, Wheatly etc. and Ontario goes to Chile to buy....incompetent, clueless or corrupt.... I am thinking on corrupt considering the Chilean company was able to qualify when all the requirements weren't provided.
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