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    Yes but think of the damage that can be done in one mandate. Oh well, nothing we can do about it not our battle. Not sure how that will affect Harper this Fall? If she screws up it will help. If she does a good job it will hurt. MulCair must be giddy this morning. As for Trudough maybe he isn't done his bowl of cheeerios yet this morning and his handlers haven't explained it to him yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by werner.reiche View Post
    I'd disagree with that on a couple of counts. One - people that left Ontario for jobs in Alberta are for the most part from conservative backgrounds. They're looking for good wages and not worrying about hard work. They're not looking for government handouts and government jobs. Two - some of your most conservative Albertans are those from Ontario/Quebec who have seen what poor governments can do to a province, and have left that behind. They don't want Alberta to become the next Quebec/Ontario.
    Over the years I lived in Alberta there were lots of people from out east that worked with me in the patch or mining or industrial jobs. They did have conservative
    Views. But the ones teaching the kids and working in public sector jobs were true dyed in to wool libs.
    My daughter is only now starting to see what she was taught in school for what it is. She is almost 30, and just started back to school to be a child care worker.
    She is shocked at the ideas they are teaching her. She says the system has so many ways to take someone's kids it is very scary.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Just had a light bulb moment

    That is why gas jumped 10 cents/L yesterday.

    Crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    Some facts wrong there....

    Alberta... Deb $12B or about $3,000 per person and this year is $5B less than half Ontarios/
    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-d...lberta-s-debt/


    Ontario
    $290B and almost $21,000 per person and growing by $12B this year
    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-d...ntario-s-debt/

    FYI: Manitoba with the NDP is over $25,000 per person right now.

    If you look at the percentages the Wildrose and PC combined is 52% of the population.


    Note I said DEFICIT not debt, so unsure what you are on about?

    Last I heard Alberta was around 5 billion and ON around 12.5 deficit. But per capita that makes Alberta's worse. There population is around 3.7 million, ours 13 million. Per capita that makes Alberta's DEFICIT worse...

    Last I saw the NDP had 55% popular vote before I turned the TV off. Could have been 55 seats(but even then it was more than double) though and my error or the numbers changed later on. Regardless, it's a pretty big change. Definately a protest vote and a sign of tough times... People are more likely to vote radical change when things are going bad and status quo when things are OK or good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    Some facts wrong there....

    Alberta... Deb $12B or about $3,000 per person and this year is $5B less than half Ontarios/
    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-d...lberta-s-debt/


    Ontario
    $290B and almost $21,000 per person and growing by $12B this year
    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-d...ntario-s-debt/

    FYI: Manitoba with the NDP is over $25,000 per person right now.

    If you look at the percentages the Wildrose and PC combined is 52% of the population.


    Calling an early election and items like the floor crossing and the previous wild spending cost them an election and was even dumber than Hudak saying 100,000 instead of "roll back to pre-Liberal size of govt'"

    Not sure if this is seats or popular vote, doesn't add up to 100, but seems too high to be seats. Anyhow more than double NDP to WR/PC;

    http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/cmlink/7.637571

    yup it's seats, more than double, shocking. I guess a little less popular vote, but I haven't seen the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intothedeep View Post
    Note I said DEFICIT not debt, so unsure what you are on about?

    Last I heard Alberta was around 5 billion and ON around 12.5 deficit. But per capita that makes Alberta's worse. There population is around 3.7 million, ours 13 million. Per capita that makes Alberta's DEFICIT worse...

    Last I saw the NDP had 55% popular vote before I turned the TV off. Could have been 55 seats(but even then it was more than double) though and my error or the numbers changed later on. Regardless, it's a pretty big change. Definately a protest vote and a sign of tough times... People are more likely to vote radical change when things are going bad and status quo when things are OK or good.

    OK, very true then, I was skimming and missed the per capita, I stand corrected.

    I'm going by what I saw on the National Post this morning. A huge change from the previous election... says something that the party promising to increase taxes (personal and corp) gets elected. Justin is promising the same thing but doing an us and them, promising less taxes for some and increases for others, his dad excelled at being divisive and using that tactic too.

    Yeah, the Conservative gov't turned left and spent like a ... like a.... NDP.


    CBC seems very happy this morning, I have seen almost as much of Mulcair as Notley and there is lots of speculation on what it means for the Nation..... they smell the spending increase promised by Mulcair it looks like.
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    All the numbers you want about provincial debt comparisons at:

    http://www.rbc.com/economics/economi...rov_fiscal.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    For you investors, might be a good time to look at Oil Sands companies, the prices are taking a big hit today.
    http://business.financialpost.com/ne..._lsa=aec6-9134

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    Looks like they are about to boot out the PC's in Alberta. These people are pizzed at the PC party for imposing a bunch of taxes to make up lost oil revenues. But get this, they are going to replace them with the NDP !!!! Isn't that like bringing a keg of beer to an AA meeting?

    I don't want to get into a debate, but the conservatives pissed away all the oil money in the world out there for 3 decades. Now the province is running a deficit. Do you honestly believe they deserved to hold power?

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    Yeah the NDP got 41% popular vote. I would have guessed higher with that many seats... Was vote splitting for sure. Still surprised they got more than a minority in right wing Alberta...

    Daniel Smith must be kicking herself now, as she would likely be premiere if she hadn't crossed the floor, strange times.
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