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March 5th, 2015, 10:14 PM
#11
I normally used cheap crappy oil to flush it out twice and that meant removing and emptying the oil filter as well both times. Third fill was new synthetic and new filter but it was worth it. I charged for all the oil used and my time. But they always got the bike back the same day. Savage308
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March 5th, 2015 10:14 PM
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March 6th, 2015, 07:49 AM
#12
Should you get water in the engine oil of your atv..
Drain the oil
Replace only half with fresh clean oil
Add 1/3 of crank case capacity with seafoam
top up with dextron 3
Run atv at idle through three warm up cool down cycles
Change oil and filter
How is it one careless cigarette can cause a forest fire, but it takes a whole box of matches to light a campfire?
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March 6th, 2015, 09:30 AM
#13
Interesting routine Oaknut. Could you elaborate on why you use that particular list of ingredients?
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March 6th, 2015, 12:12 PM
#14
I've used sea foam on other applications, but not like that, it would certainly be a benefit going through the fuel system! Savage308
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March 6th, 2015, 01:00 PM
#15
Originally Posted by
dutchhunter
hey guys my brother got a newer sled it is a skidoo ,we all have cats ,anyway all are 2 stroke now the cats we run synthetic oil it comes from cat and it is purple ,his sled calls for the same synthetic oil but it came with red oil from the skidoo dealer ,now heres the problem he was near out of oil I said he could run the cat oil the purple oil in his skidoo that has red oil in it ,I think the color is just like the name brand and the oil is basicly the same ,you should be able to run cat oil in a skidoo or the other way around as long as it is 2stroke synthetic oil ,whats your take .Dutch
Back to the OP
Mixed oil used to be just engine oil, they would mix SAE 30 oil with the gas for old 2 stroke engines, hence why they used 20:1 gas to oil mixes, the oil was not consistent and a little iffy so they put more in.
Since this is a newer sled it will use an oil injection system, these systems are setup to mix at the proper rate for the engine to burn.
Synthetic oil is more consistent than conventional 2-stroke oil. It is probably better to use synthetic 2-stroke oil in these mix systems as they are designed to burn less oil and therefore have less lubrication than older machines where you pre-mixed.
The colour is simply a dye, the reason to dye 2-stroke oil is that you can then tell if your gas is pre-mixed with oil or not.
With different colours you can mix red 2-stroke oil at 40:1 for your chainsaw, blue 2-stroke oil for your oil dirt bike at 20:1 and green (not sure if there is a green) for your outboard at 50:1.
If you are dumping gas into a 2-stroke that needs a pre-mix and you do not see a colour you are not putting in pre-mix.
I had a sled with injection, the pumps were known to go on them so I just ran it on 100:1 pre-mix and mixed with what the injection system put in. If the sled is relatively new you should be fine.
Good luck and enjoy the last few weeks out there.
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March 6th, 2015, 07:38 PM
#16
Oil is oil.
Know a guy who worked in the oil industry in America and Sarnia.
He said the it's the same stuff all the time. Whether it says Motomaster, Esso, Valvoline, Quaker State-- their factory plants filled jugs with the same product.
10W30, injection oil, 2 stroke oil.... you get what the label says. But all brands are identical and multiple brands can be bottled all at the same plant.
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March 6th, 2015, 07:56 PM
#17
2Cycle Oil;2-Cycle and 4-Cycle Oil
- Because 2-cycle oil burns with the fuel, it must be more refined than 4-cycle oil, and it must contain a number of additives. These include detergents to clean varnishes and carbon deposits from the combustion ports, anti-wear agents to protect moving parts, biodegradability components and antioxidants. Four-cycle oil also contains additives, but the oil isn't designed to burn, so the additives are of a different quality. In a pinch, you may be tempted to run a 2-cycle engine by adding 4-cycle oil to the gas, but according to a lawn and garden equipment article published by the University of Tennessee Agricultural Extension Service, you should never mix 4-cycle oil with gasoline in a two-cycle engine, which would damage the engine and significantly shorten its life. You should also avoid using 2-cycle oil in a 4-cycle engine as it's too thin and may permanently damage the engine.
Read more : http://www.ehow.com/facts_6755243_di...cycle-oil.html