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January 14th, 2022, 08:43 AM
#291
Originally Posted by
impact
Hey Badenoch, you will now have to curtail your international travel and spend more time spewing your falsehoods from your dark and dank basement.
I do believe the world has joined forces and is in opposition to your leftist propaganda...lmao
No safe place for you to walk the streets.
https://rumble.com/vskp69-worldwide-demonstrations.html
The way you can tell that a group is an insignificant and irrelevant minority is when its members furiously attempt to convince they aren't. LOL.
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January 14th, 2022 08:43 AM
# ADS
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January 14th, 2022, 08:55 AM
#292
Originally Posted by
Badenoch
It would be a mistake to regard this forum as microcosm of Canadian society. Hunters and gun owners are an even small minority in our society than anti-vaxxers.
The "weekly protests" are small and insignificant. Couple thousand tops, most often a few hundred reactionary malcontents and conspiracy theory kooks. Were it not for COVID many of them would be ranting in the streets and online about 5G, fluoride in the water, Bill Gates and the NWO.
Why? This forum comprises a large amount of people across different ages, occupations, ethnicities and geographical locations. Gun owners are not a small minority in Canada as there are over 4 million gun owners, which is over 10% of the general population, and a much higher % of the eligible population (18 or older, not a felon, no disabilities that prevent safe handling, etc.).
You pivoted from saying there were hardly any protests, to then saying that the weekly protests themselves are small in number. And you are wrong in both cases. There have been large and constant protests all over the country, and to my previous point, they include more support from those choosing to remain anonymous or from those physically unable to attend. There has been outpouring of support for people like Artur Pawlowski and others who took a stand against the bullies. And again, coming from meek Canadians who are generally afraid to rock the boat this is even more significant.
You are in the minority with your pro-lockdown / pro-mandate views and I believe you are on the wrong side of this issue.
Please reconsider your position for the health of your country.
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January 14th, 2022, 09:15 AM
#293
Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
Why? This forum comprises a large amount of people across different ages, occupations, ethnicities and geographical locations. Gun owners are not a small minority in Canada as there are over 4 million gun owners, which is over 10% of the general population, and a much higher % of the eligible population (18 or older, not a felon, no disabilities that prevent safe handling, etc.).
You pivoted from saying there were hardly any protests, to then saying that the weekly protests themselves are small in number. And you are wrong in both cases. There have been large and constant protests all over the country, and to my previous point, they include more support from those choosing to remain anonymous or from those physically unable to attend. There has been outpouring of support for people like Artur Pawlowski and others who took a stand against the bullies. And again, coming from meek Canadians who are generally afraid to rock the boat this is even more significant.
You are in the minority with your pro-lockdown / pro-mandate views and I believe you are on the wrong side of this issue.
Please reconsider your position for the health of your country.
The number of legal gun owners in Canada is 2.2 million or closer to 7% which in anyone's definition is a small minority.
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firear...irearms-report
Consistently public opinion polls show support for both vaccines and mandates. In the most recent election one party promised to do away with mandates. They received 5% of the vote and did not elect a single MP. Those facts stand in stark contrast to a handful of sign-wavers and law-breaking pastors.
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January 14th, 2022, 09:16 AM
#294
Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
Why? This forum comprises a large amount of people across different ages, occupations, ethnicities and geographical locations. Gun owners are not a small minority in Canada as there are over 4 million gun owners, which is over 10% of the general population, and a much higher % of the eligible population (18 or older, not a felon, no disabilities that prevent safe handling, etc.).
You pivoted from saying there were hardly any protests, to then saying that the weekly protests themselves are small in number. And you are wrong in both cases. There have been large and constant protests all over the country, and to my previous point, they include more support from those choosing to remain anonymous or from those physically unable to attend. There has been outpouring of support for people like Artur Pawlowski and others who took a stand against the bullies. And again, coming from meek Canadians who are generally afraid to rock the boat this is even more significant.
You are in the minority with your pro-lockdown / pro-mandate views and I believe you are on the wrong side of this issue.
Please reconsider your position for the health of your country.
Re: protests. Working Canadians are always under-represented at protests. Because they are either working or are not wasting their weekend at a protest because they spent all week working and have stuff they need to get done on weekends.
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January 14th, 2022, 09:19 AM
#295
Protests take many shapes and forms in the digital age.
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January 14th, 2022, 09:38 AM
#296
Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Re: protests. Working Canadians are always under-represented at protests. Because they are either working or are not wasting their weekend at a protest because they spent all week working and have stuff they need to get done on weekends.
Yes good point.
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January 14th, 2022, 09:55 AM
#297
Originally Posted by
Badenoch
The number of legal gun owners in Canada is 2.2 million or closer to 7% which in anyone's definition is a small minority.
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firear...irearms-report
Consistently public opinion polls show support for both vaccines and mandates. In the most recent election one party promised to do away with mandates. They received 5% of the vote and did not elect a single MP. Those facts stand in stark contrast to a handful of sign-wavers and law-breaking pastors.
That was from 2019. Firearms courses have been booked solid, especially in Ontario, and gun ownership is on the rise. That number is much higher now in 2022 as per my figure.
This also doesn't include those who hunt exclusively with bow/crossbow, as they won't be on the books.
You also didn't to take into account the % of eligible population as mentioned. There are lots of children and elderly people who aren't included in this metric and who don't even vote. So it is not a small minority. Look at the total population breakdown by age and run those numbers again.
The support for the PPC was huge considering the circumstances. Going up against any of the 2 main parties is by nature going to be a minority position. What's significant is how much support they received based on their pro-freedom stance alone, enough to make O'Toole change his tune to ride the wave of growing discontent. People of various ethnicities and political backgrounds were able to unite against limp wristed Justine and mealy mouthed O'Toole.
The vote alone doesn't solely determine people's opinions on these matters. Perhaps at the time they had other interests that took priority. There is a growing # of people who realize they've been duped and that the mandates aren't the answer. This is evidenced in public opinion, on places such as this forum, in random conversation with others in public, the growing frustration of business owners everywhere, the constant and massive protests all around the world, etc. that you continue to deny to the detriment of all.
Last edited by Bushwhacker; January 14th, 2022 at 09:57 AM.
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January 14th, 2022, 10:33 AM
#298
If we can just for a moment look at the whole idea of the last couple of years. My outlook will vary from yours, but this is generally how it played out.
1. An illness breaks out in China with little concern at first indicated by both China and the WHO.
2. It spreads rapidly and is fatal. It becomes declared a pandemic after a delay and countries world wide take immediate action to prevent exposure. Lack of early concise information allows for the spawning ground of conspiracy theories and misinformation.
3. Most if not all government precautions fail and we have a global pandemic
4. Very early on, and with very little science a divide occurs in the population on how to go about this pandemic. On the one hand you have group 1 calling for government action to help its population , and then you have group 2 calling government action an over reach of its powers. (Lockdowns)
5. The divide is very much exacerbated due to the US political election and it’s polarized candidates. This is where science and politics kind of melded and some people drew a line in the sand, so to speak, on their beliefs. This divide allows for the festering of conspiracy theories and misinformation. (On a side note and possibly unrelated but at this juncture Rumble sees a huge gain in popularity)
6. All the while numbers of infected across the globe are bouncing up and down. High infection rates and high rates of fatalities across the globe.
7. The vaccines introduction gives many people a sigh of relief. The numbers look good and most of Canada’s population is for it. Hospitals are running near capacity, this should provide relief.
8. The science is scrutinized by some and deemed ineffective due to the nature of the newness of technology in regards to the mRNA
9. The vast majority in Canada get jabbed. On going science changes which in turn changes government stance on certain vaccines (mixing, a-z, j&j side effects).
10. At first with earlier variants, the vaccine is effective at preventing serious illness and transmission to some degree. There are side effects to the vaccine, but so far the good out weighs the bad.
11. Hospitalizations decline. Lockdowns diminish. The virus becomes manageable. The use of PPE and a cautious approach to lifestyle curbs the spread. Numbers of vaccinated individuals in Canada reaches the upper 80%. Hospitalizations are low and manageable and mainly among the unvaccinated. Transmission is possible in vaccinated individuals.
12. The unvaccinated are prevented from taking part in certain social and public settings to prevent them from becoming ill and burdening the healthcare system.
13. A new variant sweeps the globe. It is highly transmissible and infects everyone equally. Most public settings close again. The vaccine is offered for a third and in some cases fourth booster. Hospitalization rates increase rapidly. Back to square one.
14. While vaccines are shown to lower the severity of the illness, some still refuse. Those individuals are being scapegoated for the cause of the spread, where scientifically it shows transmissibility occurs in both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
15. Lack of leadership from all areas of government due to either ineptitude or fear promotes the divide in society. The ongoing war of misinformation which is not highlighted by the government allows the divide to deepen. Suspicion breeds anger which breeds social action or disobedience (whichever way you see it)
16. Science is showing that the new variant, while fatal to some, is generally milder in nature to its predecessors. At the same time, after two years, cases of previously infected individuals are reporting reoccurring symptoms (long haulers).
17. Where does it all lead?
While my synopsis won’t jive entirely with yours, these are, for me, the major points of the last couple of years.
I’m not affected by vaccine mandates, I’m not bothered by wearing a mask for the purpose of protecting my fellow Canadians. While I feel for the business’ that had to, or still are shut down, it doesn’t affect me directly (we don’t eat out often, we don’t go out to movies, we aren’t into fairs or big parties). I don’t watch or listen to various news outlets regularly, so I’m not buying into the hysteria on either side of the coin.
I’m not an expert in science and I’m not one to believe in sinister motives. I think we all need to continue carrying on within the parameters until this blows over. Patience and a steady diet of time consuming chores is prescribed. Otherwise, what’s the real alternative?
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January 14th, 2022, 11:44 AM
#299
Many if not the majority are affected by the vaccine mandates in one way, shape or form.
People have been coerced in taking the jab and it is still not enough. They keep moving the goal post.
Who wants to be a medical slave to government when as an example omicron is milder than the seasonal flu.
No one can ignore the immediate vaccine injuries being reported nor the unknown long term side effects.
Medical experts worldwide have spoken and the population is now listening.
Government controlled MSM and its agents can no longer contain it.
It is no longer a theory but now a conspiracy.
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January 14th, 2022, 01:43 PM
#300
We may have had it the beginning of the year
About a week of symptoms extreme fatigue sweats little congestion a slight headache
With a runny noise and the runs for me 3 or 4 hard days sleeping lots.
The wife chills body ackes light dissyness little brain fog extre fatigue she clocked 35 hours on her sleep machine in 3 days and 55 for 5 days and a runny noise .
The youngest had a sore throat low grade fevers runny noise stuffy noise .
We isolated the 10 days never went for a test but they are not testing low risk individual's. We had rapid test but opted out of knowing it was covid. We will pay for antibody test through some blood work if we can.
We took our vitamins drink some immunity teas had lots of elderberry syrup some milk immunity laites. Hopefully it's what we had .
We all had different symptoms but all covid like.
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Last edited by fishfood; January 14th, 2022 at 01:51 PM.