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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    Agree, well said BW....



    Lots of it recently with guys who have had successful careers ruined by some incident that happened 30 yrs ago while in college being dragged out and finding a sympathetic audience.
    The talking head and culprit is MSM.
    The world will be a much better place once they are decapitated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Maybe Joe society as a whole are trying to make reparations for all the years of special treatment minorities suffered at the hands of the KKK,
    or for employers and companies who flat out refused to hire minorities and all opportunities closed of to them?

    Now as you know progressive's Governments asked those entities to KINDLY change their policies, but they refused, then the same Governments warned them it would be mandated into law and they still refused and then IT WAS MANDATED INTO LAW.

    I guess you did were not aware of minorities being treated so poorly?

    So now Joe that its mandated in law and Human Resources departments abide by quotas the deal is done.

    But the flip side to all this is that those same companies who refused minorities are tripping over themselves to appear fair.

    Its to bad that fairness was not there from the start but it sure is now and those complaining the most were the one's who refused change.
    Well Gilroy look at it this way - who is hurt by this preferential treatment - some white guy whose father was a coal miner or a construction worker or was poor and trying to make ends meet - who had nothing to do with an past injustice - who worked hard to prepare himself fo a good job only to find that he was turned down because the job was given to some minority who was less qualified

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePa View Post
    Well Gilroy look at it this way - who is hurt by this preferential treatment - some white guy whose father was a coal miner or a construction worker or was poor and trying to make ends meet - who had nothing to do with an past injustice - who worked hard to prepare himself fo a good job only to find that he was turned down because the job was given to some minority who was less qualified
    Well Joe like some of the previous posters have stated 'now that the shoe is on the other foot".

    Just for the record I am not a fan of "affirmative action" it has caused more harm that good, a lot of incompetent folks are in positions where they are being paid big money for poor performance. I know of incidents where promotions were given not on merit but to get rid of a troublesome employee into another branch or department.

    Its been very damaging for police services, minorities hired or better qualified none minorities, given more points for color or language skill,s.

    When they were asked to Police their own communities as a reflection of that community they did not want to do it, Black officers did not want to patrol housing projects where much of the crime was committed by criminals of black color. Asian officers who would not work in Chinatown because they were afraid of their families being targeted by triads. So I am not blind to this stuff.

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    Bushwhacker;

    "Instead of “diversity” why don’t we ever talk about decency as a stand alone virtue?

    The people who just shrug and say “oh well now the shoe is on the other foot and you just don’t like it” completely miss the point and are so far out of the loop on this issue it’s actually sad. It’s just a matter of time until a ravenous mob comes for your head for some perceived slight or slip up of new woke rules you didn’t even know existed."

    Well Bushwhacker calling to arms the forces you stated in previous posts do not exist is dangerous as are all the dog whistles we read on here. None of this stuff promoted by the right helps and plenty promoted by the left has gone way overboard.

    So we have elections to balance all this stuff out, unfortunately at this time in history the balance seems swayed to the left. The right has a lot to blame in this, because they also go overboard.

    I will give you an example, Parliament just opened again and Erin O Toole basically refused to say how many of his MP,s were vaccinated. He wanted to get back into the house IN PERSON with his party to knock the crap out of the Liberals. Nothing wrong with that.

    But then the first move by the Liberals joined by the NDP and probably the Bloc, is that now Parliament will be run virtually, exactly the opposite of what Erin said he wanted.

    But why would you not just be TRANSPERENT about the vaccine issue and give the numbers instead of giving Trudeau exactly what he wanted.

    What is wrong with you guys........
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    Because it is illegal to ask someone's medical history, but you already know that and the only way Liberals know how to operate.

    "But why would you not just be TRANSPERENT about the vaccine issue and give the numbers instead of giving Trudeau exactly what he wanted."

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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    Because it is illegal to ask someone's medical history, but you already know that and the only way Liberals know how to operate.

    "But why would you not just be TRANSPERENT about the vaccine issue and give the numbers instead of giving Trudeau exactly what he wanted."
    Well if I accept exactly what you are saying Erin is still playing into the hands of the opposition. If Elizabeth May say's she feel's unsafe being in the hallways with Conservative members who may not be vaccinated is she going to be viewed as the person sabotaging democracy and the business of Parliament or is it going to be Erin. Counter productive, a vote loser, save and except for a social conservatives whose votes cannot get you over the finish line.

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    Yeah let's be mad at eachother over perceived differences instead of eating the rich.

    You're all clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrible_E View Post
    Yeah let's be mad at eachother over perceived differences instead of eating the rich.

    You're all clowns.
    LOL Your absolutely Terribly right E.

    I was just thinking about this yesterday, we are all being distracted.

    Wall Street bankers defrauded folks around the globe and stole all their money, including tax payers pensions and then got bailed out by the same guys they robbed. Half of Americans lost their homes. Most all of us lost money in mutual funds or the stock market. Guys like Bernie Madoff , Made off with 65 billion dollars. The list goes on and on.

    In the meantime we are all playing games on our I phones, watching useless Reality shows, while the rich are manipulating the real estate market's World Wide, Playing futures to increase the cost of oil and gas, and using the stock market as a casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon View Post
    When did life get so complicated? For me, you hire on merit , period.
    Totally agree. I don't care what race a person is, what language they speak, or their gender. I just want the most competent person available.
    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmer View Post
    Totally agree. I don't care what race a person is, what language they speak, or their gender. I just want the most competent person available.

    The problem starts at the top though in Canada, we have PM that is arrogant, divisive and virtue signalling. For example as I said earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    Pretty much, but we even have a PM that picks cabinet members based on their genitals (or how they identify) instead of competence, knowledge and skill... and a reminder of how that turned out.


    and the PM has a total lack of ethics and competence and lies to Canadians to create division and hold power...


    "Wilson-Raybould says she's mad at herself now for having once thought Trudeau is an 'honest and good person, when, in truth, he would so casually lie to the public' "

    https://www.amazon.ca/Indian-Cabinet...dp/1443465364/

    We all want an honest and competent person at the controls of the airplane or the bus or driving a truck but it seems there is an agenda to average down government and positions of power to the level where they are held by the incompetent rather than the best candidate. Division, entitlement, lies, coverups, incompetent (or sabotage, your call) decisions have doubled Canada's deficit that took 150 year to create in 6 years and pushed Canada in the direction where their supporters actually seem to like and want the disaster zooming at Canada's future.

    I spent a couple hours talking to someone I know that grew up in China and the programs and hardships created by not being "red enough" would end you up writing daily confession documents to hand in, sent to work in the Gobi or other internal exile. Listening how a couple committed suicide together because of it or the abuse and beatings for not being politically correct or even just disagreeing with the wrong person at work reminds me of the way the left is behaving and some of the far right is starting to go that way too. To have a PM with this view after listening to the stories I heard today really shows how far down the sh** hole we are. When you hear of the actual witnesses of the cultural revolution or the Chinese dictatorships programs or that were actually there when the tanks rolled into Tienanmen killing thousands... well the hate and lies and division created in the name of political correctness etc. while stripping away empathy, dignity, respect and integrity are quite disgusting and getting worse as people stop thinking and caring in the name of "correct think" and "fairness" that the gov't in power uses as excuses.

    This imbecile...



    they have long ignored Solzhenitsyn and his writing even in the face of the warnings from a witness we can listen to with current experience.

    "if you say the wrong word it could end your family" ....


    Giving a person a position of power based on their sex, their "redness" (political), their skin colour, their ancestry..... division and creating hatred to gain more power, that's where this society is going fast! The culture war is ongoing and if you think people should be judged on their integrity (ex. Jody W.R.) or free speech etc. the left will lie and hate and create fear ... think the way they want you to or else!
    https://thebridgehead.ca/2018/02/09/...ent-are-nazis/
    Last edited by mosquito; November 27th, 2021 at 12:37 AM.

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