Doug Ford will not mandate vaccination for hospital workers

[MikePal]

Many people who are skeptical of these dangerous experimental jabs have received other vaccinations. So it's not an accurate title. It's simply a way of lumping anyone who disagrees with you together and demonizing your political/ideological opponents so that you can just dispense with them without actually engaging their arguments.

That's very true...like Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables...

There are a handful on here that have grouped anyone that questions what's going on as anti-vaxxers...that don't eat well, smoke and drink HaHa..

[Bushwhacker]

The term "anti-vaxxer" predates COVID has been frequently used to describe people who do not accept vaccines nor allow their children to be vaccinated. It is an accurate and appropriate term to describe people who refuse to take the COVID vaccinations as are "anti-lockdown" and "anti-mask" for people who oppose those public health measures.

The origin of the term is not in question. The context of its usage is.

It lumps the casual skeptic (who may have already received a negative reaction from a 1st dose) in with the more hardcore "no vaccinations ever for any reason" crowd. So that would automatically be an incorrect and dishonest framing.

Why are pro-abortion folks heroically referred to as pro-choice? Not anti-baby or anti-life.

Anti-vax is synonymous with anti-science as I've outlined above. And in our modern secular culture being anti-science is just about the worst thing someone can be. So it's a way to demonize a large group of very different people (including many prominent scientists & doctors), who might only happen to share one thing in common: questioning an ineffective, dangerous, experimental gene therapy that's being forced on them.

Those opposed to lockdowns, masks and forced experimental jabs could be referred to as:
- pro-choice
- pro common sense
- freedom lovers
- defenders of liberty
- exposers of tyranny
- critical thinkers
- brave patriots
- alpha males with healthy testosterone levels
etc.

As mentioned I don’t think anyone really cares about the term, but we shouldn’t be disingenuous or naïve regarding its usage.

[Badenoch]

The origin of the term is not in question. The context of its usage is.

It lumps the casual skeptic (who may have already received a negative reaction from a 1st dose) in with the more hardcore "no vaccinations ever for any reason" crowd. So that would automatically be an incorrect and dishonest framing.

Why are pro-abortion folks heroically referred to as pro-choice? Not anti-baby or anti-life.

Anti-vax is synonymous with anti-science as I've outlined above. And in our modern secular culture being anti-science is just about the worst thing someone can be. So it's a way to demonize a large group of very different people (including many prominent scientists & doctors), who might only happen to share one thing in common: questioning an ineffective, dangerous, experimental gene therapy that's being forced on them.

Those opposed to lockdowns, masks and forced experimental jabs could be referred to as:
- pro-choice
- pro common sense
- freedom lovers
- defenders of liberty
- exposers of tyranny
- critical thinkers
- brave patriots
- alpha males with healthy testosterone levels
etc.

As mentioned I don’t think anyone really cares about the term, but we shouldn’t be disingenuous or naïve regarding its usage.

Those who oppose government intervention in a woman's right to make her own choices regarding her reproductive system are not "anti-life" or "anti-baby" because a fetus doesn't qualify as either.

Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep."

While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO.

[fishfood]

Those who oppose government intervention in a woman's right to make her own choices regarding her reproductive system are not "anti-life" or "anti-baby" because a fetus doesn't qualify as either.

Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep."

While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO.

Anti science?

Like the science that says kids are at a rare risk of needing medical attention?
Theñ say that it shouldn't be a reason not to vaccinate the kids with an emergency use only vaccine?
Clearly it's not an emergency.

Like the hundreds of studies peer reviewed about early treatments keeping people out of the hospital?

What about the one push narrative that only a vaccine will get us out of this ?

Or the evidence of natural immunity that is being ignored


What science are they following. ?







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[Bushwhacker]

Those who oppose government intervention in a woman's right to make her own choices regarding her reproductive system are not "anti-life" or "anti-baby" because a fetus doesn't qualify as either.

Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep."

While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO.

Thanks for showing your hand, and completely nuking yourself out of any semblance of rationality or morality whatsoever.
No reproduction is occurring at the time of an abortion (it already occurred during the sexual act) so that's another dishonest framing of the discussion.

So in your view a fetus is not a life?

"Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep." -- I would disagree. You are just repeating and reinforcing my previous claims...

"While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO." -- You are just repeating and reinforcing my previous claims...

[canadaman30]

Those who oppose government intervention in a woman's right to make her own choices regarding her reproductive system are not "anti-life" or "anti-baby" because a fetus doesn't qualify as either.

Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep."

While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO.

I like real science when it comes to medications. So far the political science and MSM on medications is a complete failure.
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Real proven safe and effective science I can agree with
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From a common sense thinker who used ivermectin to treat covid
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[MarkB]

1) IMO the term is dishonest, and has connotations of a backwards hillbilly who's never heard of SCIENCE (the new secular religion). That's how it is used.

It's like calling someone racist for pointing out statistics on government handouts worsening certain problems.
"What, you're skeptical of reckless spending? Haha you must hate minorities!"

Or like calling any Trump supporter a Nazi. Same thing. There is a smug and condescending note to those who use the anti-vaxxer phrase. The uppity Leaside liberals who think their *&^$ doesn't stink. Same with the anti-masker phrase.

Many people who are skeptical of these dangerous experimental jabs have received other vaccinations. So it's not an accurate title. It's simply a way of lumping anyone who disagrees with you together and demonizing your political/ideological opponents so that you can just dispense with them without actually engaging their arguments. What's the saying, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.


2) I could care less what people call me. I don't want to police anyone's speech.


Both 1 & 2 can be true simultaneously.

1. Honestly, when I say anti-vaxxer ... I truly don't mean it in a negative way ... it is a simple term to explain whether someone is against taking the vaccine or not ... so, really, I'm a bit surprised people are taking that term so personally ... I mean "anti" means "opposed to" or "against" ... and I have no idea why people who are against the vaccine take issue with that ... it is no where near calling someone a Nazi. I have family that are anti-vaxxers ... again, all that is, is a term to quickly designate a person's opinion on that subject.

2. That's how I thought people should receive that ... especially as I'm not trying to insult anyone with it. And honestly, because I'm confused why some guys are being so sensitive with that word ... I'm like ... and those guys are calling other people snowflakes??? Sounds hypocritical to me (not talking about you by the way).

[MarkB]

And Factually...there is a whole whack of vaccinated people that fill the same description..so why are you continuing to associate that behavior to only the anti-vaxxers ??

Mike ... and factually, I stated that I am vaccinated and also eat horrible grocery food due to convenience.
So, un-factually (do you not read, or are you lying?) you state I am exclusively saying this has to do with anti-vaxxers.
WRONG MIKE ... READ my stuff.

And by the way ... here's the point, because you are wildly missing it ... man I have to start drawing pictures for you!

Anti-vaxxers are concerned about injecting something in their body because it may "poison" them ... fair enough.
There's a subset of anti-vaxxers that are eating poorly, smoking, drinking ... and all that will kill them way before the jab!
That's the idiocracy in that position.

Let's take the same scenario with a vaxxer.
Vaxxer takes the vaccine, either not concerned or less concerned.
They may also eat poorly, smoke, drink ... but they aren't the ones singling out a vaccine as if it's the only thing in the world
that is killing them.

The only hypocritical scenario is an anti-vaxxer that smokes, drinks and eats poorly!

I'm sure you stopped reading half way ... so I'll probably have to repeat this over and over and over and over and over, like usual.

[MarkB]

That's very true...like Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables...

There are a handful on here that have grouped anyone that questions what's going on as anti-vaxxers...that don't eat well, smoke and drink HaHa..

Yes, you're the one that has done that grouping Mike, not me.
You just don't read my posts, cut and paste things ... just to keep that argument going.
Hope it makes you feel better ... not sure how it makes you feel smarter ... especially when
I point out how many times you've missed key things I say ...

It's a joke actually.

[MarkB]

I like real science when it comes to medications. So far the political science and MSM on medications is a complete failure.
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Real proven safe and effective science I can agree with
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From a common sense thinker who used ivermectin to treat covid
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The problem is, you only look at the data that suits your opinion.
If data shows otherwise, it's a lie, made up by MSM.

That's where the problem is.

You're data is as much a lie as any news data ... you just believe your sources.