Just a flu?

[MarkB]

An important distinction I believe you have missed sir: propaganda, by definition, is usually something that is propped up by various arms of the state apparatus for some type of political/financial gain. It is subversive and seeks to control rather than inform. So a smaller % of dissidents or freedom fighters would not necessarily be spreading propaganda...they would be combating the propaganda by trying to expose the truth (which is increasingly being censored). It does favour one side of the political isle much more heavily, and that is simply a 'point' that just needs to be scored in this particular debate. Especially when such things come directly from the horse's mouth -- great reset, build back better, not to mention the inventor of the pcr test and mrna vaccines.

People see through this and ask questions. This is a healthy and natural response from a free Western country.

I'm not interested in comparing anecdotal evidence. You happen to know people who have had more complicated experiences with Covid, while I have the opposite experience. My wife and I, as well as some friends and family members were all totally fine in about 5 days. I've had worse hangovers. I know several healthy people including a young family member who've had severe complications from the vaccine. I know healthy people who were completely flattened by the flu, and one friend who almost died.

As you said we are free to use our own practical reason to guide or decision making process. But just like my opening paragraph above, the difference is one point of view is heavily bought and paid for, while the other is censored and suppressed at every turn. They only recently squeaked out an article that actually mentioned natural immunity being more effective than the vaccines. I couldn't believe it.

Many people are choosing to trust in their God-given rationality and immune systems for a virus that has a 99% survival rate, instead of lying politicians and the so called 'experts' on their payroll. There's nothing conspiratorial about that.

Very few young healthy people have been severely harmed by Covid. That's a fact.

If parents want to vaccinate their 5-11 year old because big daddy government tells them it's a good idea I will obviously have to disagree, but they are free to do so.

It's not a slap in the face to the people who've been hurt from Covid to accurately point out statistics and speak honestly about its purported dangers being overblown. It is a slap in the face to be lied to and misled by countless so called experts who've flipped flopped all over the place regarding the efficacy of certain measures, and stabbed each other in the back amidst a complete lack of scientific consensus. By politicians who've been complicit in one of the most ruthless forms of social engineering we've ever seen. The countless people who've suffered mental health breakdowns and economic ruin because of hypocritical, anti-scientific lockdowns. Kids who aren't allowed to play outside with their friends or take off their masks at school because of cowardly, hysterical fully vaccinated parents and teachers. Kids who've missed their graduation and other milestone events. Kids who couldn't play sports while pro athletes galavanted around the globe and dined in fancy restaurants. That's a slap in the face.

We went from "15 days to flatten the curve" to "3 shots or you lose your job and all your freedoms"

If people want to line up for infinite boosters and continue wearing masks while living in fear that is their choice.

They should also respect the choice of those who take the opposite path, especially those with natural immunity to the virus.

I appreciate this post. Please allow me to clarify a few things.

I carefully thought about using the word propoganda in reference to what anti-vaxxers believe.
You see, I think there is a group that the anti-vaxxers trust, whom are spreading some non-sense, and the reason
is simply for political gain. They oppose the current government, they oppose what they do, and they want
change.

Don't get me wrong ... I can't wait for the day for the Liberals to be out of power, but I also am very careful about
my information sources, and acknowledge how any source can be tainted by conflict of interest ... and if anything else,
just a stubbornness to change mindset because they'd hate to admit they were wrong.

On another note, I say comments like "it's just a flu", or "it's just gives you the sniffles" and it is all "fake news" IS a slap
in the face to those who have died and their loved ones they leave behind. Try telling my cousin who just lost her husband
from covid ... he's gone ... can't undo that. She'd be pretty p!ssed off at anyone calling this a common flu. And he, by the way,
was anti-vaxx.

Once again I'll state my position. Taking the vaccine should be a choice, and COVID is much more serious than the flu.

[fishfood]

COVID is much more serious than the flu.

I guess that would depend on the age group you are in.

One article is covid 19 and the other is regular flu . You decide what did more harmful and put more stress on the health care system. One article is 9 months of covid the other is the beginning of the flu season.

264 kids from covid in 2020 in 9 months 43% didn't even know they had covid.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/kids-...risk-1.6191067

The first few months of the the flu 2017 2018 season. By January 13th 303 kids hospitalized 48 so sick they needed an ICU 6 kids under the age of 10 died.

4th paragraph if you want the deaths of the kids I will get that link for you too.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health...erts-1.3773039


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[MikePal]

The first few months of the the flu 2017 2018 season. By January 13th 303 kids hospitalized 48 so sick they needed an ICU 6 kids under the age of 10 died.

And we had a vaccine available FREE ....less than 60% of the pop get it annually.

[fishfood]

But for others this virus is far more deadlier than the flu. So where is the middle point?



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[Bushwhacker]

IMO there is no "pandemic". Less than 1% of the world allegedly dying from a disease over the course of two years is not a pandemic, and anyone telling you otherwise has succumbed to fear. Simple as that.

P.S. I have a headache from all this covid talk. Can you guys all please take an advil so that my advil will work?

[MikePal]

But for others this virus is far more deadlier than the flu. So where is the middle point?

Unfortunately, like most things, the middle point lies with the general public. Almost everything has a 50/50 split if the media sticks to just report then news and politicians don't interfere.

Like with annual shots, it's there, it's available free, and still only 60% get it. And they are mostly elderly because it can and does kill that age group. Everyone else just gets it or regrets not doing so after the fact. But there is no need to 'mandate' it.

This pandemic has been the most aggressive social engineering project the world has ever seen. Driven by the MSM and the Village Idiot spouting off doom and gloom every morning from his pulpit. Caused panic, fear and division as never seen before in these modern times. With that, they achieved 80% vaccination rate in a pandemic that killed less than 30,000 people in a pop of 38 million..that is 0.08%..less than 1%, death rate.

The only thing we really learned is that our Hospitals's ICU care is woefully inadequate. Could have used some of the $71 Billion they spent on CERB far more usefully upgrading our Health Care than paying little Johnny to stay comfy in his Moms basement HaHa

[MarkB]

I guess that would depend on the age group you are in.

One article is covid 19 and the other is regular flu . You decide what did more harmful and put more stress on the health care system. One article is 9 months of covid the other is the beginning of the flu season.

264 kids from covid in 2020 in 9 months 43% didn't even know they had covid.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/kids-...risk-1.6191067

The first few months of the the flu 2017 2018 season. By January 13th 303 kids hospitalized 48 so sick they needed an ICU 6 kids under the age of 10 died.

4th paragraph if you want the deaths of the kids I will get that link for you too.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health...erts-1.3773039


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Well I PERSONALLY know:

30, 40 and 70 year old that died from COVID
18 - 24, couple of 50 year olds that had severe illness due to COVID

So it seems the age groups with my own data is pretty well distributed.

[MarkB]

IMO there is no "pandemic". Less than 1% of the world allegedly dying from a disease over the course of two years is not a pandemic, and anyone telling you otherwise has succumbed to fear. Simple as that.

P.S. I have a headache from all this covid talk. Can you guys all please take an advil so that my advil will work?

If the hospitals can cope, yes, you get away with 1% to 2% death rate.
If you become flooded like Italy, then it goes up to 10% to 15% ... which is insane.
And Italy did happen, I spoke live with a doctor on the scene ... it was a travesty!