Started by the MOD to clean up derailed thread

[werner.reiche]

It'll be interesting to see how enforcement of the concept of only one topic per threat will last HaHa..

A bit odd to start enforcing this 15 years in. Is this in the rules of conduct?

[Bowjob]

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there are rules in place on this forum.

if your argument is freedom of speech sure say whatever you want. doesnt mean it wont be removed by the people who volunteer to mod this forum and who are enforcing the rules of the ones who created the forum.

if your argument is about he got his post moved or removed and he didnt, volunteer to be a mod to help them out. if im not mistaken theres 1 active mod on here and 1 active admin. if you think theyre going to catch everything youre sadly mistaken, thats nothing towards the mod and admin but just the lack of them.

[canadaman30]

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there are rules in place on this forum.

if your argument is freedom of speech sure say whatever you want. doesnt mean it wont be removed by the people who volunteer to mod this forum and who are enforcing the rules of the ones who created the forum.

if your argument is about he got his post moved or removed and he didnt, volunteer to be a mod to help them out. if im not mistaken theres 1 active mod on here and 1 active admin. if you think theyre going to catch everything youre sadly mistaken, thats nothing towards the mod and admin but just the lack of them.

Depends what side of the fence you swing from Bowjob. It wasn't so long ago the arson of churches, railways was spoke about on here by certain members as justified along with the defacing and destruction of historical sights and statues. Would seem for a certain group on here there is no isssue justifying and supporting hate crimes while others are suspended for such acts.

[Bowjob]

Depends what side of the fence you swing from Bowjob. It wasn't so long ago the arson of churches, railways was spoke about on here by certain members as justified along with the defacing and destruction of historical sights and statues. Would seem for a certain group on here there is no isssue justifying and supporting hate crimes while others are suspended for such acts.

Fair enough, there's also members here who slander others and stir the pot more often than not when others don't agree with them but they're still here. So I get what your saying.

At the end of the day its up to the mods and admins.

You could always put a complaint in via email if some of you are that upset.

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[Sharon]

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there are rules in place on this forum.

if your argument is freedom of speech sure say whatever you want. doesnt mean it wont be removed by the people who volunteer to mod this forum and who are enforcing the rules of the ones who created the forum.

if your argument is about he got his post moved or removed and he didnt, volunteer to be a mod to help them out. if im not mistaken theres 1 active mod on here and 1 active admin. if you think theyre going to catch everything youre sadly mistaken, thats nothing towards the mod and admin but just the lack of them.

Well said. !

[smitty55]

Anyone who has sat at a table with a bunch of guys over a coffee or Barley Brew knows the conversation never stays on topic, it morphs, twists and continues to evolve for hours at a time. That is what conversation is. Discussion and opinions shared will always take twists and turns...as it should. Rules to prevent the natural flow of conversation will always be seen as censorship.

It should be no different on here, imagine an 'administrator' sitting at the end of the table constantly telling people to stay on topic. It will stifle the conversation and participation will drop if posts are constantly removed without just reasons being provided.

Trolls....as many have preached but few follow....just ignore them and deprive them of the attention they seek.

Mike that's why I said "should the OP desire" and a mod would have to agree. Sure some threads take twists and turns as a normal course but I'm talking about when threads get hijacked and taken totally off course on purpose by those just looking to stir the pot.

[MikePal]

Mike that's why I said "should the OP desire" and a mod would have to agree. Sure some threads take twists and turns as a normal course but I'm talking about when threads get hijacked and taken totally off course on purpose by those just looking to stir the pot.

I look at 'Trolling' (stirring the pot) as a whole different thing than Hijacking and understand that is why they have separate rules for them. Hijacking is steering a topic of course by changing the topic. Trolling is posting antagonistic nonsense to instigate an argument, which leads to the thread losing any value and it gets locked down.

Where as, going off-topic usually causes the thread to go down the Rabbit hole and ends up who knows where but everyone has had a good time getting there...including the OP. Haha.

edit add: In this particular case Joe was talking about Rabies Vaccine and it morphed into comments about vaccines in general. The MOD apparently took it upon himself to remove comments not related to Rabies..or...because they were Covid related.

[finsfurfeathers]

I look at 'Trolling' (stirring the pot) as a whole different thing than Hijacking and understand that is why they have separate rules for them. Hijacking is steering a topic of course by changing the topic. Trolling is posting antagonistic nonsense to instigate an argument, which leads to the thread losing any value and it gets locked down.

Where as, going off-topic usually causes the threat to go down the Rabbit hole and ends up who knows where but everyone has had a good time getting there...including the OP. Haha.

edit add: In this particular case Joe was talking about Rabies Vaccine and it morphed into comments about vaccines in general. The MOD apparently took it upon himself to remove comments not related to Rabies..or...because they were Covid related.

What actually happened was a report was file requiring that I look into the thread. I reviewed the thread inwhich Joe was talking specifically about Raibes Vaccine. The thread was immediately hijacked steering the topic off course by changing the topic to a Covid discussion.
To get it back on tract yes I removed the covid comments with the encouragement for those that wanted to discuss covid/rabbies to start a thread in the designated forum for such discussion.
Thus allowing those who wanted to continue on the Covid tract to discuss further whereas those who did not could carry on the rabies discussion.
Compromise is aking to respect for me atleast.

[Gilroy]

Moderating is not an exact science. For those of you who are critical of some decisions made by moderators, try it on for a bit. Its not as easy as it may appear.

Agreed. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you people. If you want 100% freedom of speech and no moderation then start your own damn forum.
Otherwise shut up and appreciate what we have here and the fact that some give their free time to keep it orderly.
Not everything is a fight for your freedoms

Best comments so far.

[gbk]

What actually happened was a report was file requiring that I look into the thread. I reviewed the thread inwhich Joe was talking specifically about Raibes Vaccine. The thread was immediately hijacked steering the topic off course by changing the topic to a Covid discussion.
To get it back on tract yes I removed the covid comments with the encouragement for those that wanted to discuss covid/rabbies to start a thread in the designated forum for such discussion.
Thus allowing those who wanted to continue on the Covid tract to discuss further whereas those who did not could carry on the rabies discussion.
Compromise is aking to respect for me atleast.

Sorry-but all in all,it seems more as a censorship then moderating. No offence.
On a top-encouraging bleeding hearts to snitch(while it is their right-magnitude of the"offence"should be taken in consideration)is outright sad.

At the end-even the LEOs assess on occasion the culprit, to decide course of action.
I do not see here ,why anyone would need to "challenge"a long standing ,level headed and contributing member (who happened to be even" put to a spot" by posting in his name)with not much "guilt"other then having different opinion on COVID, different then the "flavor of the year" dictates.

Never did moderating,and never will.
Must be hard.

But-being impartial and objective should not be.........yet being persistent with the decision for posting in another persons name(regardless if it is "highlighted")is weird at best.