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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    so, as suspected, a private matter that has hit the news due to the fact she was a Police Officer. AND as I said:



    This mandated nonsense has really caused an unhealthy division in society.
    This was not a private matter! The officers conduct was at a public place with other parents and kids present. She was not suspended, because it is a Provincial offence. She very well could have been charged with other criminal offences, but I suspect she was given a break . After her meltdown, it would be very hard for her to police in a smaller town… her credibility is shot!!
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    Section 80(2) of he Police Services Act does preclude most off-duty actions from being deemed misconduct with a couple of notable exceptions.

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p15#BK117

    Off-duty conduct
    (2) A police officer shall not be found guilty of misconduct under subsection (1) if there is no connection between the conduct and either the occupational requirements for a police officer or the reputation of the police force. 2007, c. 5, s. 10.
    As she was publicly identified in the news media as a member of the Greater Sudbury Police Service there is a good case to be made her conduct and Facebook posts announcing her intentions reflect on the reputation of the force. It would appear her Chief is of that opinion.

    https://northernontario.ctvnews.ca/g...nola-1.5605412

    Greater Sudbury police officer charged with trespassing in Espanola
    Darren MacDonald CTVNewsNorthernOntario.ca Digital Content Producer
    Published Sept. 29, 2021 2:58 p.m. EDT

    SUDBURY - An officer with the Greater Sudbury Police Service has been charged with trespassing in connection with a Sept. 26 incident in Espanola.

    Manitoulin Ontario Provincial Police said they were called to the Espanola Recreational Centre after receiving a report about individuals who were trespassing on the property.

    "OPP had attended earlier in the day and requested the individuals leave," police said in a news release. "The individuals returned to the property a short time later."

    As a result, two people – a 47-year-old police officer from Sudbury and a 39-year-old from Espanola – have been charged. The officer is charged with resisting police and trespassing. The 39-year-old is charged with trespassing.

    They have a court date of Nov. 15 in the Ontario Court of Justice in Espanola.

    In an email, Sudbury police spokesperson Kaitlyn Dunn confirmed the suspect has been a constable with the force since 2018.

    "Under the Police Service Act of Ontario, (the officer) has been assigned to administrative duties," the email said.

    "The incident has also been forwarded to the Professional Standards Bureau for further investigation. An investigation has been initiated for breaches against the Police Service Act."

    And Chief Paul Pederson released a statement, saying the actions of the officer in this case "do not reflect our core values.

    "Our members have sworn an oath to uphold the law according to any Act, any regulation, rule or bylaw," Pedersen said.

    "Although these accusations have not yet been proven in a court of law, the alleged actions of this officer during this incident are dishonourable and discouraging. Members who fail to uphold the law will be held accountable for their actions and will be subject to the same judicial process as those we serve.”
    Whether she is convicted or not in the courts her temper tantrum will probably not get her fired. Demotion and docked pay will be the likely result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    so, as suspected, a private matter that has hit the news due to the fact she was a Police Officer. AND as I said:
    I agree that this story probably came out due to the fact she was a LEO. However, as Rick has mentioned earlier, Police Officers should be held to a higher standard and considering her actions were displayed in a very public place, I don't see how it could be construed as a "private" matter? This wasn't in someone's backyard. Can you imagine the backlash if the story was buried, only to be exposed at a later date, due simply for the fact it involved a LEO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    I agree that this story probably came out due to the fact she was a LEO. However, as Rick has mentioned earlier, Police Officers should be held to a higher standard and considering her actions were displayed in a very public place, I don't see how it could be construed as a "private" matter? This wasn't in someone's backyard. Can you imagine the backlash if the story was buried, only to be exposed at a later date, due simply for the fact it involved a LEO?
    Maybe we can fill the positions with foreigners that are willing to take the shot lol.

    Many police are against the Vaccinations
    As they should have the right to choose what is best for them. It's why 17 thousand health care workers are off work in Quebec . We have successfully divided the people .

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    Bad laws were made to be challenged and changed.
    Who else in a better position to do it but law enforcement officers themselves.
    Sheep no more.

    https://policeonguard.ca/police-on-g...kVBX3G7kwzoAQ0


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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    Maybe we can fill the positions with foreigners that are willing to take the shot lol.

    Many police are against the Vaccinations
    As they should have the right to choose what is best for them. It's why 17 thousand health care workers are off work in Quebec . We have successfully divided the people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    Bad laws were made to be challenged and changed.
    Who else in a better position to do it but law enforcement officers themselves.
    Sheep no more.

    https://policeonguard.ca/police-on-g...kVBX3G7kwzoAQ0

    Both of you are overlooking the fact the officer was charged with trespassing and resisting arrest, not failing to provide proof of vaccine. If it goes to court, the judge won't give two hoots about the vaccine issue. IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    I don't see how it could be construed as a "private" matter?
    She was NOT representing the Force, off duty and not in Uniform...makes her equivalent to a 'private' citizen in the eyes of the law, doesn't it ?

    She may be known in the community as a LEO, but that shouldn't hold her accountable to the force for punishment. If she is found, or pleads, guilty it might have a bearing on her record (Security clearnaces, etc.) but shouldn't result in disciplinary actions. Union rep will clarify that if it gets that far.

    It would be hard for a court to prove her actions reflected poorly on her standing with the Force...

    What happens if a few off duty cops get into trouble in a local bar after hrs...do they lose their jobs ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    Both of you are overlooking the fact the officer was charged with trespassing and resisting arrest, not failing to provide proof of vaccine. If it goes to court, the judge won't give two hoots about the vaccine issue. IMHO
    Did not overlook the fact. How does one get charged with trespassing at a public facility?
    She stood her ground and a BS charge was thrown at her. Not unlike the food court incident in Toronto last week where the group stood their ground but no charges were laid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    She was NOT representing the Force, off duty and not in Uniform...makes her equivalent to a 'private' citizen in the eyes of the law, doesn't it ?

    She may be known in the community as a LEO, but that shouldn't hold her accountable to the force for punishment. If she is found, or pleads, guilty it might have a bearing on her record (Security clearnaces, etc.) but shouldn't result in disciplinary actions. Union rep will clarify that if it gets that far.

    It would be hard for a court to prove her actions reflected poorly on her standing with the Force...

    What happens if a few off duty cops get into trouble in a local bar after hrs...do they lose their jobs ??
    What laws should a LEO be permitted to break while off duty and not in uniform, without repercussions? It is my understanding that members of the police are LEO's 24/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    Did not overlook the fact. How does one get charged with trespassing at a public facility?
    I would assume one get's charged when they return to said facility a 2nd time, after they were warned the 1st time?

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