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    I've long wondered why those who have recovered from the virus are never talked about and never considered when it comes to passports etc.

    The antibodies your body developed are exactly the same as the antibodies that your body was tricked into developing with a vaccine. The 'T' cells developed are the same.

    So logically a blood test showing you have Covid 'T" cells is as good as a passport. However it's never discussed or considered by those pushing the 100% vaccination plan.

    Instead, we get lies like this :

    The advice from public health agencies is unequivocal: Eligible individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 should get immunized because the experts still don't know what level of protection a previous infection provides, particularly against emerging variants of the virus.

    "Those who have previously tested positive for COVID-19 should still be vaccinated," according to the latest information on Ottawa Public Health's website. "There is no information that suggests that antibodies from a recent SARS-CoV-2 infection would interfere with vaccine efficacy."
    In the real world....our bodies are our only hope for survival and with 96+ % victims of the virus fully recovered, including the dreaded Delta variant, our bodies are doing a darn fine job of creating the antibodies without vaccines.

    This spring, Cohen, who runs his own research and development tax credit firm, underwent an antibody test that he says showed he was teeming with antibodies, the proteins produced by the human immune system in response to infection.

    "The data that I have found shows that I don't need a vaccine. If the data was saying OK, your antibodies are not sufficient, I would say OK, it's not sufficient, I'm going to go get the vaccine," he said.

    Cohen doesn't know for certain that he's immune to COVID-19 — he just hasn't been convinced that getting vaccinated will make him any more immune than natural infection.
    from: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/people-who...080000237.html
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    My guess would be that it has something to do with you'll be happy part of " You will own nothing and be happy".
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    Not sure why the push more die every year from homicides in Canada than people under 50 from covid.

    Just over 600 homicides a year, covid took under 600 in 18 months.

    You have better chances of being murdered than dying from covid if your under 50



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    Good post. The problem is we have moved sooo far beyond common sense and basic truths like this. It's waayy down on the priority list...

    Raise these questions anywhere and you will be mocked, banned or fired.

    If the vaccine was so wonderful and effective they wouldn't need celebrity pop star endorsements to desperately try and wrangle children into getting it.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/popsta...press-briefing

    They wouldn't have to incentivize it in any way, or purposely make life difficult for 'anti-vaxxers' as they have overtly stated. If covid was so deadly, life would already be difficult for everyone. If it was the black plague where hundreds of thousands were quickly dropping like flies, there would be no vaccination hesitancy. Even if the chance of death from the vaccine was around 45-50%...way better odds than surviving the plague.

    But with covid its very much the other way around.
    The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.

    Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.

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    I'm truly befuddled that there is NO dialogue to support the immunity of those that have recovered from the virus. No acknowledging they have the same rights and privileges as those that were vaccinated. Same 'T' cells..same immunity.

    There are over 1/2 million KNOWN cases that have recovered in Ontario alone. The estimates account that that is only 1 in10 of actual cases due to asymptomatic people and those who had mild symptoms and didn't report for testing etc. Rough estimate that means there could be up to 5 million of the 14 million..a 1/3rd... in the province who have natural immunity.

    Yet they aren't being accounted for in the herd Immunity numbers because they weren't vaccinated.

    A whole lot of BS going on.
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    There are a number of things out there that will not give you natural immunity, Tetanus is one that I know of.

    I have a friend who had long haul symptoms, she went and got vaccinated because there are studies that have shown that it helps with long haul symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    I've long wondered why those who have recovered from the virus are never talked about and never considered when it comes to passports etc.

    The antibodies your body developed are exactly the same as the antibodies that your body was tricked into developing with a vaccine. The 'T' cells developed are the same.

    So logically a blood test showing you have Covid 'T" cells is as good as a passport. However it's never discussed or considered by those pushing the 100% vaccination plan.

    Instead, we get lies like this :



    In the real world....our bodies are our only hope for survival and with 96+ % victims of the virus fully recovered, including the dreaded Delta variant, our bodies are doing a darn fine job of creating the antibodies without vaccines.



    from: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/people-who...080000237.html
    Maybe, maybe not but the vaccine keeps more people from needing medical intervention and this is what it is all about. Our medical system cannot support the influx in Hospital admissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    Not sure why the push more die every year from homicides in Canada than people under 50 from covid.

    Just over 600 homicides a year, covid took under 600 in 18 months.

    You have better chances of being murdered than dying from covid if your under 50



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    Any how many people had to be admitted to hospital? How many people needed to be transported by air from Toronto to outlying hospitals in order to make room who if they had been vaccinated may not have needed medical intervention. Entire wards had to be converted to Covid floors in SW Ontario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon View Post
    Any how many people had to be admitted to hospital? How many people needed to be transported by air from Toronto to outlying hospitals in order to make room who if they had been vaccinated may not have needed medical intervention. Entire wards had to be converted to Covid floors in SW Ontario.
    And who told you that, the media or the government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon View Post
    Maybe, maybe not but the vaccine keeps more people from needing medical intervention and this is what it is all about. Our medical system cannot support the influx in Hospital admissions.
    That is true and was the original goal, get enough herd immunity to 'plank the curve'. That has been accomplished and still is, only 150 people in the hospital across the province.

    So why now demand 100% vaccination, why the social pressures to have everyone get vaccine into the arms even those who have recovered from the virus and have herd immunity. ?

    Why are people who have recovered from the virus and have two shots still being put into isolation when they have been in contact with the virus.?

    This is not right, we're being told a lot of BS by the Health Care system. The province is no longer in a state of Emergency so why are we still being pushed to get the vaccine, when it's obvious that they know it's not going to prevent the spreading of the virus.
    Last edited by MikePal; July 20th, 2021 at 05:54 AM.

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