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    This headline on MSN world news caught my attention.
    'Unnecessarily cruel': U.K. weighing ban on boiling lobsters alive. Instead, they’ll be required to stun or chill the sea creatures before adding them to the pot. And here, I thought, a lobster hitting boiling water, at 212 degrees Fahrenheit, had a real stunning effect. Wacking them over the head is going to somehow be different? Chilling them maybe even be worst, it will take a period of time to raise the temperature of their brain tissue to the point of kill.




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    Seen that yesterday.
    Better chill your worms before putting them on the hook?
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    I will continue to boil my Lobsters alive that hissing noise you hear is not the Lobster crying it is steam coming out of the shell.

    So what about clams I wonder if they will mandate stunning them as well

    What about insects do we have to stun them?

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    More snowflakes telling us to correct something that offends them. Why is it that they can't just ignore what other people do that they don't like, but instead, no... let's regulate everyone into compliance with their ideologies?

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    My understanding is that cold blooded animals cannot feel heat/cold.
    Has research on that changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by werner.reiche View Post
    My understanding is that cold blooded animals cannot feel heat/cold.
    Has research on that changed?
    Great question WR, at least it got me doing some looking around, here are a couple of views on the matter. They appear to be arrived at through animal response to temperature change.

    Do "cold blooded" animals feel hot and cold like humans and other mammals do?

    hakunamawhata :This view on the matter is apparently 7 years old

    I believe they do. As I understand it, ectotherms (i.e. organisms whose internal body temperature isn't really a result of internal organs) have to rely on external sources of heat to keep their internal body temperatures at optimal levels. This is why you see crocodiles and other reptiles basking- after they've spent a bunch of time in the water, which is often cool, they need to soak up the sunlight. With regards to the actual feeling of hot and cold, that depends on if they have some sort of thermoreceptors, which I assume they would- although potentially for some they wouldn't be in the skin/scales?



    Kirk A. Janowiak
    , Wildlife Biologist, Educator, and am an animal, myself.
    Answered 6 years ago ·
    Do animals feel cold?
    Yes. Some mammals shiver. Birds hunker down and fluff out their feathers. Many reptiles actively seek out a warm place to sit, like a sun-warmed Rock, if temperatures are too low fro proper digestion or other activities. Most animals "feel" the cold if ambient temperatures drop below that which is suitable for them. Many animals have sensory nerves that can detect heat/cold on their skin.

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    Things will never change as that is the society we are now in. Just like the gypsy moth and gypsy ant will be renamed.

    Words matter and so does what we call something. It's offensive to say gypsy moth.

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