Problems with mass vaccination during a pandemic

[Badenoch]

So you watched the original interview and think your link is a credible alternative view? I am asking an honest question here.

Your question is hardly honest when your initial response was a personal attack.

Vanden Bossche's nonsense can be boiled down to a single point: Do nothing. No lockdowns, no vaccines. Let the vaccine race through humanity to build up "natural immunity" regardless whether it kills millions more in the process. Not going to happen.

[Jakezilla]

Did you watch the interview or not?

[Moosehead]

Jakezilla

Geert is no fool - he is a smart man with a much deeper knowledge base than most of us here on a hunting/fishing forum. Some of the stuff he speaks to definitely makes some sense. I do not dispute that his claims have some merit. What bothers me about many of these arguments is that they are just that - one scientist's opinion on what "may or may not" happen with a mass vaccine rollout. He is right - there may be problems with how fast we acted.

However, we are faced with a truly awful problem: wait years for vaccines to be studied so we can prove/disprove these possible adverse effects and let many thousands and thousands of people endure great suffering and death, or make a leap of faith based on pretty damn good evidence supported by science and try to save a whole lot of lives and suffering. The majority of scientists and doctors feel it's worth the risk. I agree with them. Those statistics and numbers that so many love to quote should remember they represent people. Where do you draw the line on taking an acceptable medical risk vs the death and suffering of so many lives? It's a tough call. Glad I'm not the one to make it.

It was an interesting video. Thanks and be well.

[Jakezilla]

Sounds good...we can agree to disagree and everyone else reading this thread can do what they want with the information. Your guess about all this is as good as mine.

As an alternative to vaccines or compliment to vaccines and a way out of all this and Geert's predictions, roll out the ivermectin.

This podcast is definitely worth a listen.

It starts with talk about the possible lab leak of COVID then it goes into Ivermectin, COVID, Big Pharma, media and the WHO....everything you wanted to know and it's criminal. The COVID stuff ends around 1:15

It could be used as the opening statement in the crimes against humanity trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxTODvTNHlw

[onelessarrow]

"The truth is like a lion, you don't need to protect it, just let it lose it will defend itself"

Tony Fauci, the ringleader spokesman of this plandemic is about to get taken down, that should be pretty clear by now.
What are the chances of a tornado hitting Wuhan at this moment in time. I know it's a nothing to see here conspiracy theory. LOL

https://rumble.com/vh4nuj-ccr-have-y...-the-rain.html

[Species8472]

"The truth is like a lion, you don't need to protect it, just let it lose it will defend itself"

Tony Fauci, the ringleader spokesman of this plandemic is about to get taken down, that should be pretty clear by now.
What are the chances of a tornado hitting Wuhan at this moment in time. I know it's a nothing to see here conspiracy theory. LOL

https://rumble.com/vh4nuj-ccr-have-y...-the-rain.html

I'll believe it when i see it just like one of your other prophecies - this one was made march 5th in this thread - https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...der-Keg/page4:

You all have been shown the evidence on this very site. You guys are unbelievable.

Joepa, the military had to allow all of those who are required to protect the constitution to fail first before they could fully act. That has now been completed and the military are in the process of preparing notification to the American people that the election was indeed stolen and the theft originated on foreign soil and was carried out by domestic treasonous basterds.

You should get some kind of confirmation by the end of this weekend(fingers crossed) likely through some kind of emergency broadcast. The media are out of the picture when this transpires. They've been accomplices and are going to get stepped on.

When we get past this period of time, we'll be able to reflect on how fortunate we were to be alive to watch it.

Good times ahead Joepa. You can take that to the bank.

According to your prediction the military was supposed to intervene on Trump's behalf the weekend of March 6th. 10 weeks later and still waiting.

[onelessarrow]

I'm not running the plan, my wishful date was just that, wishful. Again, hence the fingers crossed.
It's got nothing to do with prophecy, it's where all the evidents points and it hasn't changed only gotten stronger.
Let's hope you do believe it when you see it.
Part of the problem is it's too unbelievable to believe.

[Species8472]

I'm not running the plan, my wishful date was just that, wishful. Again, hence the fingers crossed.
It's got nothing to do with prophecy, it's where all the evidents points and it hasn't changed only gotten stronger.
Let's hope you do believe it when you see it.
Part of the problem is it's too unbelievable to believe.

Well let's just agree to disagree. Ideology aside i saw you took a nice turkey this spring - congrats. Still chasing mine but switching gears to spring bear over the next week.

[onelessarrow]

Thanks, best of luck I enjoy reading your bear stories.

[Moosehead]

Here's the thing: we can argue back and forth whether this was a "plandemic" or just a biological inevitability. Maybe it was both?? Time will show us the answers eventually. The issue remains: This virus kills people rather well. Many, many people are sick and dying around the world. The evidence to this cannot be ignored. We have two choices: do something, or do nothing. The world has chosen to use lockdowns and vaccines to try to reduce human suffering. I am OK with that. My kids still have a grandma....

Next on my list is this: What am I GOING TO DO, personally? Ranting and raving that doom awaits us is an infernally giant waste of time. I cannot influence world politics or economics. What I CAN DO is help my elderly 92 yr old neighbour by getting her groceries, help my kids with homework, teach my son how to use a power saw, go fishing with my wife and give a few walleye to someone who can't go fishing because they aren't able. I can count my blessings and call my relatives to let them know I am thinking about them. AND I CAN VOTE.

I do not begrudge anyone for "digging deeper" to try to understand this situation. BUT nobody has the answers to what the future holds. I choose to have faith in what the majority of health care professionals and scientists world wide have decided to do, even if it is not perfect. As for vaccines - well, we will have to wait and see.

For anyone wondering about the 5G microchip in the Pfizer shot, I can tell you that my cell service out in the sticks has not gotten any better since my upgrade and I do feel kind of cheated....