DarkHorse Podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche & Bret Weinstein

[Jakezilla]

This is a long and technical podcast and the first hour is pretty technical, after that it gets a little more general and understandable without an advanced degree in biology.


From 56:00 to 1hr, they talk about the difference between natural antibodies and ones created by the COVID vaccine and the problems that could arise. Mostly the difference between antigen specific antibodies created by the vaccine and natural antibodies that are not antigen specific.

I may have this wrong, but from what I gather he is proposing that if you get the COVID vaccine your body creates an antigen specific antibody against the spike protein. If you contract a variant, these antibodies from the vaccine will bind to the spike protein of the variant but not neutralize it and these vaccine antibodies will out compete your natural antibodies blocking you from developing a natural immunity to the variant.


It is just a theory but the way it is explained in this podcast it sounds reasonable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

[MikePal]

Save me trying to find the specific answer...

Are they referring to the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/ Moderna) or the Viral vector-based vaccines (Astra and J&J) ?

What they are pointing to was the reason I decided months ago to stick with the Traditional viral vector based vaccines.

[impact]

Yes, the injections are variant specific. Basically training your immune system to only look at one variant and ignore the rest.
That is why people who have been vaccinated are getting sick with a new variant.
They are already recommending a booster shot.
You will have a cocktail of antigen specific antibody in no time at all with nothing left over of your immune system to naturally fight off any other seasonal influenza. But, Big Pharma will come to the rescue and keep injecting whereas natural herd immunity would be a lot more logical.

[Moosehead]

One thing about having no vaccines available in my area of Ontario is that I can wait and see what happens with areas further along with the process around the globe. I do not like being part of a global science experiment but I also believe that COVID is not a hoax. Look at the death in places like India and Brazil where they are burning bodies in the street. Vaccines worked for Polio, Measles and other diseases. Our science is more advanced now - I mean holy crap we just flew a chopper on Mars! Regardless, we are all in this neck deep now - look at how some other places like Finland and Israel are doing. There is definitely hope on the horizon.

[Jakezilla]

Save me trying to find the specific answer...

Are they referring to the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/ Moderna) or the Viral vector-based vaccines (Astra and J&J) ?

What they are pointing to was the reason I decided months ago to stick with the Traditional viral vector based vaccines.

They are talking about the MRNA vaccines here but they also discuss the problem in with a mass vaccination policy in the middle of a pandemic which refers to all the different vaccines.

[Jakezilla]

10 minutes of Bret Weinstein calling out facebook and their fact checkers regarding the podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t7P2i4o53U