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February 22nd, 2021, 09:20 AM
#61
Originally Posted by
Gilroy
All your wishful thinking means nothing, if a call is generated, the police will be dispatched and will arrive like it or not. If your place is gated they will enter on foot, a Court will probably find it was "reasonable in the circumstances" for police to attend and investigate.
.......like it or not if a farm has Bio Security gates up the police CANNOT enter the property past the locked gates (at the road) without a warrant or landowners permission (the guy shooting beside me)
The OSPCA Act empowers inspectors or agents (such as a veterinarian or police officer) access to private property in cases where:
- a search warrant is issued by a Justice of the Peace;
- the inspector/agent/officer observes an animal in immediate distress; or
- the owner grants permission to enter.
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...cts/04-003.htm
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February 22nd, 2021 09:20 AM
# ADS
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February 22nd, 2021, 10:35 AM
#62
Everything should be gated and a security risk because of covid.
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February 22nd, 2021, 10:53 AM
#63
To gain entry through your gate. They just need to make a simple call. I smell smoke. Fire department will take from there and they’ll follow in
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February 22nd, 2021, 10:56 AM
#64
Originally Posted by
js4fn
To gain entry through your gate. They just need to make a simple call. I smell smoke. Fire department will take from there and they’ll follow in
All poultry farms in Niagara are now gated with posted warning signs. There is a respiratory virus going around the chicken farms in Niagara and they are VERY diligent on who they let beyond the containment zone.
They have a volunteer fire dept out that way.......will would take those guys hours to arrive. Almost as slow as cops near a Crispy Cream donut shop with the fresh out of the oven light on.
Last edited by 410001661; February 22nd, 2021 at 11:45 AM.
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February 22nd, 2021, 11:07 AM
#65
I think everyone should google
Runkle of the Bailey
And watch his firearms related videos easy to listen too lawyer
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February 22nd, 2021, 11:25 AM
#66
Originally Posted by
js4fn
To gain entry through your gate. They just need to make a simple call. I smell smoke. Fire department will take from there and they’ll follow in
That doesn't fly in rural Ontario either. They have to have some proof of danger and the smell of smoke won't cut it.
Picture a fire brigade smashing through or cutting their way in to roll up on a kid roasting marshmallows over a campfire. Nobody is that stupid and nobody will take that chance. At best the police will jump a fence and hope the charges are big enough to warrant the mud on their face.
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How is it one careless cigarette can cause a forest fire, but it takes a whole box of matches to light a campfire?
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February 22nd, 2021, 11:47 AM
#67
Originally Posted by
js4fn
To gain entry through your gate. They just need to make a simple call. I smell smoke. Fire department will take from there and they’ll follow in
WTF.....you Gilroy's partner from the days on the force or just a fellow card carrying Liberal?
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February 22nd, 2021, 01:09 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by
410001661
.......like it or not if a farm has Bio Security gates up the police CANNOT enter the property past the locked gates (at the road) without a warrant or landowners permission (the guy shooting beside me)
The OSPCA Act empowers inspectors or agents (such as a veterinarian or police officer) access to private property in cases where:
- a search warrant is issued by a Justice of the Peace;
- the inspector/agent/officer observes an animal in immediate distress; or
- the owner grants permission to enter.
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...cts/04-003.htm
That is not absolute and it depends. Might want to google R v Godoy
It is also important to put things into context OUTSIDE of internet discussions with people who agree with you. After Canada’s worse mass killing in NS happened (even though there were many massive screw ups by the RCMP) people seem to want police to investigate these types of situations. There is public support, even expectations, for it. That dick didn’t do the firearm community any favours besides the fact when his cheese slid off his cracker, he killed a bunch of good innocent people.
Last edited by dilly; February 22nd, 2021 at 01:18 PM.
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February 22nd, 2021, 01:15 PM
#69
If there is gunfire and a complaint the police will investigate to determine the source and legality. If some hero sets guard dogs on the officers he can expect the threat to be neutralized. If he wants to make a complaint about the investigation he can do so after the fact but the complaint will be investigated to the officer's satisfaction one way or the other.
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February 22nd, 2021, 01:27 PM
#70
I feel the same about people claiming to have “boating accidents” and report their guns lost. Gimme a break. What cop wouldn’t ask “why do you go boating with all your handguns and AR variants?”