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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    February 22 supposed to be for York region is it not ? I hope they don't delay it even more.

    What area are you in ? That sucks 1 case and keeping it closed how long another week.
    I'm in the Timiskaming region, which includes New Liskeard, Timmins, and Kirkland Lake.
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    I get it Mike, and yes a lot of the time I think the cure (closures etc) has been worse than the disease, but consider IF the numbers of cases had gotten out of control badly and there were not enough ventilators or ICU beds...THEN I think you may have seen the mortality rate go up significantly....the death rates have been low because they’ve been able to treat all cases adequately ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by delmer View Post
    I'm in the Timiskaming region, which includes New Liskeard, Timmins, and Kirkland Lake.
    Shoot thanks .
    My mom's up that way she said it was supposed to be lifted, guess that did happen . I think the ski hill was supposed to open today . Haven't talked to her since the beginning of week but apparently they were looking for volunteers for this weekend . Will give her a call tomorrow ..

    I really hope they open soon

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    Last edited by fishfood; February 11th, 2021 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73hunter View Post
    I get it Mike, and yes a lot of the time I think the cure (closures etc) has been worse than the disease, but consider IF the numbers of cases had gotten out of control badly and there were not enough ventilators or ICU beds...THEN I think you may have seen the mortality rate go up significantly....the death rates have been low because they’ve been able to treat all cases adequately ?
    Your right, but it's really more an issue of the failings in our Health Care than in the ramifications of the virus. Ottawa has over 80 ICU beads beds and at the peak of the '2nd wave' they never had more than 11 ICU patients with Covid in ICU beds. They've averaged well below that at around 5-6 a week. They were never stressed to a point of collapse anymore than they normally are with a run of the seasonal influenza.

    I still look at other country's like Sweden who took the more logical approach and basically let the virus run its course while protecting the most vulnerable. They had more cases of the virus, but their economy and educational systems etc did not suffer greatly. In the end their population now has a greater herd immunity (people recovered from the actual virus) and now they will do better against the virus and will recover faster not having to wait for immunisation.

    Yes the social distancing efforts paid off, they always do when the flu hits...you or you kids get sick stay home. Slows down the community/work place spread. But those efforts didn't have to be imposed on 100% of the population.

    It might be noted, but I haven't seen the numbers...that most of the wave of outbreaks that have occurred weren't from getting sick from being out shopping, it was while families got together to celebrate a holiday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    Shoot thanks .
    My mom's up that way she said it was supposed to be lifted, guess that did happen . I think the ski hill was supposed to open today . Haven't talked to her since the beginning of week but apparently they were looking for volunteers for this weekend . Will give her a call tomorrow ..

    I really hope they open soon

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    The ski hills in this area have reopened this week. The adjustment of the March Break into mid April sure won't be welcome news for the hills.

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    Restrictions are slightly being lifted here in Ottawa next Tuesday, the day after family day. Yes, the virus is intelligent enough to know which day of the week it is.
    The stores will be operational again. Your family is a threat to you but multiple strangers handling goods in a store is not?

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    Pretty much my take on it as well.
    In time, we will know more about "long Covid" and or permanent organ damage.

    Bad enough to take seriously? Yep
    Bad enough to cripple the economy and knowingly throw hundreds of thousands under the bus?
    Bad enough for blanket policies that affect every region, rather than dealing with the problem?
    Bad enough for blanket policies that affect everyone, when really it just the vulnerable at risk?
    When you consider some of the options, for protecting the vulnerable. Not all that hard, nor expensive relatively speaking.

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    UK virus spread, may take upto 10 years to get ahead of virus
    https://www.facebook.com/45136900840...74653316101471

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    https://youtu.be/qtvMIZtumNc

    It's not surprising that they've doubled down lately with their fear campaign as we've hit the expected role out of a years worth of data.
    I find it interesting that Quebec is under curfew and they even extended it I think.
    Maybe if Trudeau cant go out he doesn't want his province to go out either.
    Crazy times.

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