The outcome of today

[canadaman30]

Health care in the province is under control of the conservative government. They are not handling that file very well, so now you want to blame civil servants? As far as bed numbers go it is all on Ford. In 8 months all he has done for seniors is make it harder for them to sue for profit operators for negligence.

What we are seeing is the neglect your heros McGuinty and Wynne achieved with Ontario. Thats why Ford was voted in to pull our province out of bankruptcy, while overspending to fix neglect from liberals not only with our health-care, but also with schools.
You should really wake up, we are what 2 trillion in debt, and what has Trudeau achieved besides handing out money and destroying our economy? He has no plan whatsoever. Maybe his plan for covid is as good as his plan for drinking water..lol. It gets good about the 1:20 mark...he's an idiot

[fishfood]

Health care in the province is under control of the conservative government. They are not handling that file very well, so now you want to blame civil servants? As far as bed numbers go it is all on Ford. In 8 months all he has done for seniors is make it harder for them to sue for profit operators for negligence.

Yes there is some blame to be done there as well.

But being a global issue puts it more into the federal government they are bailing everyone out . Why not invest into the problem.

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[Gilroy]

What we are seeing is the neglect your heros McGuinty and Wynne achieved with Ontario. Thats why Ford was voted in to pull our province out of bankruptcy, while overspending to fix neglect from liberals not only with our health-care, but also with schools.
You should really wake up, we are what 2 trillion in debt, and what has Trudeau achieved besides handing out money and destroying our economy? He has no plan whatsoever. Maybe his plan for covid is as good as his plan for drinking water..lol. It gets good about the 1:20 mark...he's an idiot

Well not so fast my friend we can go right back to that genius Mike Harris again and his common sense revolution,just another mess he helped create by privatizing the nursing homes where most of the deaths have occured.Now he has a cosy job on the board of one of he biggest private nursing home companies.


https://spon.ca/mike-harris-expanded...re/2020/05/05/

[Gilroy]

Health care in the province is under control of the conservative government. They are not handling that file very well, so now you want to blame civil servants? As far as bed numbers go it is all on Ford. In 8 months all he has done for seniors is make it harder for them to sue for profit operators for negligence.

Of course he wants to make it harder to sue the nursing homes operator's as its ex Conservative Premier' like Mike Harris sitting on the bard of one of the biggest private operator's.LOL

https://spon.ca/mike-harris-expanded...re/2020/05/05/

[COLOR=#3E3A3A] But the Tories back then made it easier for owners by easing staff ratios and requirements, just as the Tories last year scaled back annual comprehensive inspections.

[Gilroy]

Yes good olde slash and burn Mike Harris, lay of nurses and Doctors,slash 800million from the health care budget and presto profit by opening up your own business looking after senior's.OMG

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...e_service.html

Then he has his sticky hand in all these other pie's.LOL

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...o_premier.html

[MikePal]

More Liberals nonsense..they live with lies so long they think they are facts..

Thankfully the History Books are nonpartisan...

Myth 1: Did Harris cut health care funding? Fact: The Mike Harris Progressive Conservative governments reallocated money within the health care system, but never cut funding one year to the next. For a quick end to this discussion, the graph below is from the Ontario Ministry of Finance including the figures from the Ontario Liberal Budget of 2004. Even the Liberal authors demonstrate that Harris never cut health care funding.

Myth 2: Harris closed 28 (or 40 depending on the tale teller) hospitals. Fact: Harris rationalized hospitals and hospital administration. He “closed” some old out of date hospitals and replaced them with modern state-of-the-art new ones and merged many administratively. If, as the Liberals did in St. Catharines, Harris closed two in a community, he usually built a new one to replace it. His opponents never cared to talk about the new hospitals. Also, with the help of the independent Health Services Restructuring Commission, Harris took three separate hospitals, each their own corporation, and put them under the umbrella of one hospital corporation – because the old corporations on paper ceased to exist, his detractors chalked up it up as three closed hospitals. The hospitals were all still there and operating normally, but under new names.
As one health care consultant noted, “Premier Harris appointed an Independent Commission that made recommendations to his government on how to make hospitals more effective and efficient. There was no closing of hospitals but amalgamations of corporations in the same city. These amalgamations have worked very well for most regions that undertook the commission’s recommendations. It made the delivery of health care more effective and that is a positive legacy of the Harris government. In fact, these amalgamations have continued on with many hospitals in Toronto, Hamilton, London and Kingston choosing to follow the model”.

Myth 3: Did Harris fire 6,000 nurses? When Harris came to office in 1995, there was a predominant hospital issue in Ontario known as ‘bed blockers’. This term mainly referred to the thousands of elderly people who were too frail to go home but not sick enough to be in an acute care hospital. There were many health care professionals having to look after these folks in hospitals. Acting on health care professional’s advice; Harris took money from hospital budgets and put it into home care budgets. There were dramatic increases in home care services and the elderly left the hospital beds, went home, and started to receive home care from nurses who were moved from the hospital system to the home care system. According to critics, any nurse who changed employers or job description was calculated as having been fired by old Harris himself.
“Nurses were not fired, they moved from one corporation to the new corporation and got severance with the notice and were rehired immediately by the new corporations. The government does not hire or fire nurses nor do they set their salaries. Only independent hospitals can to this as they are not-for-profit organizations,” explained the consultant.

[fishfood]

What we are seeing is the neglect your heros McGuinty and Wynne achieved with Ontario. Thats why Ford was voted in to pull our province out of bankruptcy, while overspending to fix neglect from liberals not only with our health-care, but also with schools.
You should really wake up, we are what 2 trillion in debt, and what has Trudeau achieved besides handing out money and destroying our economy? He has no plan whatsoever. Maybe his plan for covid is as good as his plan for drinking water..lol. It gets good about the 1:20 mark...he's an idiot

Look at all those nice green trees behind him to make paper bags from [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[MikePal]

Look at all those nice green trees behind him to make paper bags from [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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One of my favorite pics...Climate Barbie admiring a future straw..HaHa.

[Tigboy 304]

Look at all those nice green trees behind him to make paper bags from [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Don't forget the paper straws!!!

[Gilroy]

Today, Harris serves as the Chair of the Board for Chartwell Retirement Residences.[64] During the Covid-19 pandemic in Canada, Chartwell was one of the three "for profit retirement homes that had "far worse COVID-19 outcomes than public facilities." These three also "paid out $1.5 billion to shareholders over the last decade."