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October 19th, 2020, 11:54 AM
#21
Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
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October 19th, 2020 11:54 AM
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October 19th, 2020, 12:15 PM
#22
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
Yep, with those in power and their friends allocate out who gets the water, they make sure they are getting the clean water and told to blindly obey the ones with the power and if you want to build a well or pump or windmill you are denied water and driven from the village... that's socialism
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October 19th, 2020, 04:23 PM
#23

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
Nice ideas,but humankind is just not built for it.
Example:
Robert Owen -New Harmony,Indiana.
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October 19th, 2020, 04:45 PM
#24
And if some don't feel like helping????
So teachers should teach for free. Awesome idea.

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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October 19th, 2020, 05:12 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
And if some don't feel like helping????
So teachers should teach for free. Awesome idea.
He should give back all the money from his pay checks, because getting paid a fair wage for work is Capitalism. He can see how much he is opposed to a Capitalist system
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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October 19th, 2020, 08:09 PM
#26
As a retired person I have to ask , is my pension capitalism or socialism?
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October 19th, 2020, 08:19 PM
#27

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
As a retired person I have to ask , is my pension capitalism or socialism?
If it is paid for by anything other than member contributions it is at least partially socialist. CPP falls into that category as for every $1 contributed by workers $1.40 is contributed by employers. For example as an employer when i deduct $100 in CPP from an employee i actually remit $240 to the feds as CPP. The extra $140 comes out of my (i own the company) pocket. So as much as people think they have paid for their CPP in actuality over 58% of CPP funding comes off the bottom line of employers.
EI is similar except the ratio is 1:1 so in that case 50% paid for by employees and 50% paid for by the employers.
So my answer would be your federal pension is a socialist program that is paid for by capitalists.
Last edited by Species8472; October 19th, 2020 at 08:38 PM.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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October 20th, 2020, 01:01 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
Species8472
So my answer would be your federal pension is a socialist program that is paid for by capitalists.
The perfect answer, well done !!
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October 20th, 2020, 09:00 AM
#29
We all know we can't have 100% capitalism ... it drives the wrong behavior.
We also all know we can't have 100% socialism ... that drives even worse behavior!
There needs to be incentive to earn, to progress, to do better, and to improve ones lifestyle.
But there needs to be a community when someone legitimately needs the help (sick, treated unfairly, etc).
The only question in my head is what is the correct balance? For sure it isn't spend way too much money on the socialism
stuff until we go broke. We have to do what we can ... and that in itself means, we have to treat ANY money we have
as a precious commodity ... not like toilet paper, which is burned by government to serve their own selfish interests.
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October 20th, 2020, 11:43 AM
#30
Great post MB. It goes for all governments. Always.