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June 5th, 2020, 11:54 AM
#61

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
There's no evidence Mr. Floyd was "high on drugs". Lately,he had been treated for symptoms of Covid-19. There's ample evidence from several witnesses who will testify that Mr.Floyd's conduct was polite and co-operative. Being "rookies" is no excuse. They're fresh out of college and certainly should have known better. If they use the excuses as you described,it'll be all over for them except the clang of the cell doors closing behind them. There is absolutely no redeeming argument that can ever be made for the conduct of senior arresting officer holding the subject down by a knee to the neck,especially,after several witnesses and the subject told them that he couldn't breath. The other officers (rookies or not) are equally culpable for failing to stop the restraint. I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them.
It will be interesting to see how any of the officer's will get a fair trial? Anyone in the U.S. who hasn't been swayed either way about this case has been living under a rock?
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June 5th, 2020 11:54 AM
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June 5th, 2020, 12:10 PM
#62
He was a good boy
What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this,” police union president Bob Kroll told his members in a letter posted Monday on Twitter.
Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.
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June 5th, 2020, 12:22 PM
#63

Originally Posted by
js4fn
He was a good boy
What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this,” police union president Bob Kroll told his members in a letter posted Monday on Twitter.
Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.
Does his past realy matter for the way he was treated? So he had violent past ,he was also on ground cooperating they had ample time to search and arrested him. Not keep him pinned down while other officers watched for the amount of time he was down like that.
What was point in keeping him like that when clearly there was 3 officers doing nothing.?
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June 5th, 2020, 12:34 PM
#64
Ya, it shouldn't really matter what he did in the past, it's how his real time behaviour that's only relevant.
The cop should have removed his knee from his throat, why didn't he do that, not sure but clearly if he had, that man would not have died that way.
Last edited by fratri; June 5th, 2020 at 01:04 PM.
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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June 5th, 2020, 12:47 PM
#65
The officer had his knee on his neck for nearly 9 minutes.
9 minutes
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June 5th, 2020, 01:00 PM
#66

Originally Posted by
fishfood
The officer had his knee on his neck for nearly 9 minutes.
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9 minutes and no letup at all...... What was he thinking..... or maybe he wasn't........ Clearly his training failed him. It was like he had narrow vision (blinders on/he froze?) there probably some clinical name for what he did because I don't believe the cop knowing wanted to kill him.
Last edited by fratri; June 5th, 2020 at 01:05 PM.
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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June 5th, 2020, 01:43 PM
#67

Originally Posted by
fratri
9 minutes and no letup at all...... What was he thinking..... or maybe he wasn't........ Clearly his training failed him. It was like he had narrow vision (blinders on/he froze?) there probably some clinical name for what he did because I don't believe the cop knowing wanted to kill him.
He was an almost 20 year veteran,so,he had no excuse. He also had 18 civilian complaints against him. How the hell was he still on the job? The same goes for the "look out" officer standing behind them scanning the street. He was also a veteran who had several complaints against him,too. Something is very,very wrong in St.Paul/Minneapolis Police.
Last edited by trimmer21; June 5th, 2020 at 01:45 PM.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 5th, 2020, 02:07 PM
#68
I’m not denying Derek Chauvin killed Floyd
Have you seen the video. They had Floyd in the cop car. Buckled in door shut.
What did Floyd do to get pulled out and on the ground.
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June 5th, 2020, 02:29 PM
#69

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
I'm sure the courts will sort this one out ... imagine what will happen to the USA if they don't convict that cop.
Talk about burning down cities.
In any case, the cop is a douche bag ... you don't need a judge or a jury to see that he's an idiot, and there was excessive
use of force. Even my friends who are cops are calling him a murderer ... and have no sympathy for him. Fentanyl or not,
what that cop did was excessive (in a gross way ... not sure excessive is the right word ... maybe "head blown crazy"? Not sure
the courts will accept that terminology).
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June 5th, 2020, 02:31 PM
#70

Originally Posted by
fratri
I can see how the rookies did nothing.... They are on the job just a few days. They are greenhorns, looking up to the veterans for guidance. With no real life policing experience you need to cut the rookies some slack for not knowing what to do. With that said, under the resulting circumstances, not sure how much slack cutting is appropriate....
I wonder what the cops would do if you were an innocent teenager and it was your first time out with the boys, and one of the kids in your car jumps out and starts to kick the crap out of someone, lays on his neck and he dies, all the while you are standing around and watching. I mean you didn't mean to be there, but you think the cops would have sympathy, or do you think they'd ask ... why didn't you intervene? Why didn't you contact the police?
Why should those cops get any special treatment?