Snowbird crash

[Fisherman]

Only one pilot on board. The other was a passenger.

Ya, I know that, been around AF enough, My intent was the Helo that went down in on the exercise.

[sawbill]

It won't take a year to figure out what initially went wrong because there's one survivor to relate details. If it was loss of power or a loss of control then 'why' might take a bit of digging but they'll know exactly what to look for.

[Jems]

It won't take a year to figure out what initially went wrong because there's one survivor to relate details. If it was loss of power or a loss of control then 'why' might take a bit of digging but they'll know exactly what to look for.

Official reports take that long or longer in aviation. You’re right, the cause could be determined sooner but that remains to be seen. Equipment failure, human error, bird injestion, who knows. My point is it’s not always the craft.

[mosquito]

.... 2007 article .... new planes before 2020
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/repla...s-ago-1.635274
""We do acknowledge that to fly it into the future beyond its current life expectancy, which I believe is 2010, that we would have to do some minor modifications to the aircraft.""


2012 article Conservatives allocate $775 Million
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-snowbird-jets
"The Snowbirds fleet of CT-114 Tutors will be retired by December 2020, according to the Royal Canadian Air Force."


In 2012, then Prime Minister Stephen Harper allocated $755 million in order to replace the Snowbird jets. This move was cancelled in 2018 by the Trudeau government who instructed that the planes should keep flying until 2030.
https://thepostmillennial.com/trudea...planes-in-2018

IF it hadn't been cancelled they MIGHT (not likely) but MIGHT have replaced the current planes so other than that no polite comment about the equipment.... the pilots deserve the best or atleast safe, not used antiques and dangerously obsolete... but I guess they ask too much too according to the Liberals and my condolences to the team and families.

[trimmer21]

Maybe,it's time to retire the Tudors and acquire RAF Hawk T1's or use our F-18's that we seem to have a few floating around that are,for now,grounded.

[sawbill]

Looks like the initial blame is pointing to a bird strike. Not much they could have done when the a/c was still climbing out and just a few knots above stall speed on takeoff. Twin engine probably would have saved them.

[trimmer21]

Looks like the initial blame is pointing to a bird strike. Not much they could have done when the a/c was still climbing out and just a few knots above stall speed on takeoff. Twin engine probably would have saved them.

That's an amazing piece of evidence gathering to grab a photo of a bird strike just before it caused a flame out. It wouldn't matter what aircraft suffered a bird strike,it's going down. Remember US Airways Capt. C. "Sully" Sullenberger and the miracle on the Hudson?

[Snowwalker]

That's an amazing piece of evidence gathering to grab a photo of a bird strike just before it caused a flame out. It wouldn't matter what aircraft suffered a bird strike,it's going down. Remember US Airways Capt. C. "Sully" Sullenberger and the miracle on the Hudson?

It's not like you can coast to the curb, then get out and look for the problem.

A tiny lighting bolt jumping between clouds and travels wing tip to wing tip on a CF-5. Fuel pumps turn off, now your sitting in a big lawn dart....pilot has to make a very big decision.