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Thread: Shotguns with screw in chokes.... exceed the 20mm so now prohibited????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Relax.......the sky is not falling

    I think that this is going to be a stretch. The Bore is measured from 8-10" into the barrel not at the muzzle end of the shotgun barrel because that diameter will differ depending on the choke of the gun (which is completely different than measuring a bore of a shotgun barrel). Plus shotgun barrels that are threaded for chokes should have a choke in the barrel and never shot without a choke installed - so why would you measure it without a choke installed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbCnqkLjUE
    Try reading page 6 and 7 of the legal opinion, a video on gun smithing also showing a fixed choke.... not relevant!


    The picture here shows they are correct....
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    Well the one pictured here sure does...
    https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ab&oe=5ED719F3
    Last edited by mosquito; May 5th, 2020 at 01:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Relax.......the sky is not falling

    I think that this is going to be a stretch. The Bore is measured from 8-10" into the barrel not at the muzzle end of the shotgun barrel because that diameter will differ depending on the choke of the gun (which is completely different than measuring a bore of a shotgun barrel). Plus shotgun barrels that are threaded for chokes should have a choke in the barrel and never shot without a choke installed - so why would you measure it without a choke installed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbCnqkLjUE
    Hopefully,you're right. The way this legislation appears,we really need to apply the law of unintended consequences. For the time being,we need to exercise extreme caution. There's always the chance of running across a bureaucratic sychophant that will go out of their way to be an officious moron.

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    I’m not stopping hunting with my 12...

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    CSSA is advising store to stop selling 12 and 10 guage shotguns

    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Relax.......the sky is not falling

    I think that this is going to be a stretch. The Bore is measured from 8-10" into the barrel not at the muzzle end of the shotgun barrel because that diameter will differ depending on the choke of the gun (which is completely different than measuring a bore of a shotgun barrel). Plus shotgun barrels that are threaded for chokes should have a choke in the barrel and never shot without a choke installed - so why would you measure it without a choke installed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbCnqkLjUE
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    CSSA is advising store to stop selling 12 and 10 guage shotguns
    I think this is just one of many screwups by the village idiot and his liar (Gillys hero) liar Blair...!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    CSSA is advising store to stop selling 12 and 10 guage shotguns
    Safe advise... if it wasn't their intention and they fix it... no problem (as far as the shotguns... it is still knee jerk b.s. though)

    IF it was their intention or they decide to exploit it for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    I wondered about that 20mm and it's purpose ... could it be this? (Australia)
    https://www.theage.com.au/interactiv...tos/crush3.jpg

    Well suddenly any store selling a shotgun faces criminal charges, fines etc. and it will essentially shut down the firearm marketplace with a sledge hammer.... deliberate and accomplished in 2 years... before the next election IF the Bloc and NDP keep them afloat.
    Last edited by mosquito; May 5th, 2020 at 01:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    I think this is just one of many screwups by the village idiot and his liar (Gillys hero) liar Blair...!!
    I agree 100% - this is an oversight.........I'm continuing to hunt with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    Try reading page 6 and 7 of the legal opinion, a video on gun smithing also showing a fixed choke.... not relevant!




    The picture here shows they are correct....
    ......and the picture you are referencing, you saw that picture on the internet right..........and do you believe everything you see and read on the internet - I sure hope not!!

    You said it best.......the CSSA piece is a legal opinion. They are a just special interest group who's sole purpose is to promote the sports shooting industry. Until I receive anything in writing, I am taking all these 'opinions' as pure rumor and will continue to go about my business as normal. I will continue to transporting and hunt with my 12GA shotgun.

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    The chances of actually being charged, ending up in jail, paying to fight the charge. Atleast in the near future.

    Are slim, almost none. “Never say never”.

    I believe it’s because the village idiot who shouldn’t be in charge of a lemonade stand. Also chose a career policition who should never have been in charge of the MTPS ( G20, shortcomings fighting crime, though not entirely his fault ) to be in charge of “public safety” and our borders. BB and if he’s an air soft BB, is the last anyone should have selected..

    And this is just a colossal screw up. But that happens when a man that can’t think his way out of a wet paper bag is in charge, and the 2nd man in charge isn’t much better.

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    I think this is about CSSA finding a loophole to challenge the list. A good idea, too!
    The true bore of a 10 gauge is still under 20 mm; the muzzle becomes more than 20 mm once you remove the choke, but that does not change the bore size.

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