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August 23rd, 2019, 05:51 AM
#11
Originally Posted by
Woodsman
"Over one hectare" in Ottawa.
I guess you should have researched that.
Not your common lot size in a big city.
I'm sorry, but I have to call-out your uninformed response. As already mentioned, Ottawa includes many rural areas with large property sizes. In addition to the rule for larger properties, there are rules for trees with a diameter of 50 cm or greater that applies to all properties. I think you are the one who needs to do some research before responding.
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August 23rd, 2019 05:51 AM
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August 23rd, 2019, 06:07 AM
#12
Originally Posted by
smitty55
Ottawa city limits stretch far out into rural lands ever since amalgamation. Screwed a lot of country folks with new regulations like fire permits and higher taxes.
Yup.
Constance Bay here....
Most of us, just cut what we like, and no one bothers to call the city.
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
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August 23rd, 2019, 09:01 AM
#13
Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
Yup.
Constance Bay here....
Most of us, just cut what we like, and no one bothers to call the city.
You only have to worry about people who complain.
I called to find out how tall I can make a shed at it's maximum before needing a permit. The office thought I was crazy, then I told them it would be seen from the road and I have neighbours. It is not the ones I have know that are a problem but the ones that may come later. Our municipality (south of Ottawa) essentially will only come after you for safety or if there is a complaint, fence off your pool and don't piss off the people living around you.
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August 23rd, 2019, 10:07 AM
#14
Originally Posted by
boddah
I have had that discussion already a few times! If the tree is dead it can be removed. Copper nail. I’m just saying.
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In Oakville, I'm sure you still need a permit. It's just that the permit is pretty much automatically granted if it's dead. But the town arborist will likely still come out and inspect, and if they see any evidence of tampering ... big trouble.
And that reminds me ... there is something else that is crazy about the permitting process. The town has the right to deny your permit to remove a tree ... your own tree.
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August 23rd, 2019, 10:09 AM
#15
Originally Posted by
smitty55
I would just do it anyway, screw them. Like how would they really know? For the most part no homeowner would want to remove any more trees on his property than he had to regardless so obviously it's just another revenue stream for the city. Besides it's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask for permission but in reality it would be easy to plead ignorance if one was caught.
Ignorance is not going to work. I think they simply nail you with a $5000 fine per tree removed without a permit. I wouldn't take that chance. You might get away with it, but there are several ways to figure it out ... a nosey neighbor calls it in, or they compare satellite images from Google Earth. Easy to spot a big tree that's gone missing between Google Earth updates.
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August 23rd, 2019, 01:11 PM
#16
Has too much time on their hands
Tree removal by-laws are a government reaction to vocal people who want to restrict what their neighbours do. The complainers are the same people who also want 100% freedom to do whatever they like within their own property. "He needs to be regulated, but not me."
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August 23rd, 2019, 07:27 PM
#17
Originally Posted by
MarkB
Ignorance is not going to work. I think they simply nail you with a $5000 fine per tree removed without a permit. I wouldn't take that chance. You might get away with it, but there are several ways to figure it out ... a nosey neighbor calls it in, or they compare satellite images from Google Earth. Easy to spot a big tree that's gone missing between Google Earth updates.
I can't see a judge expecting the average citizen to know all of the likely thousands of bylaws on the books.
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August 23rd, 2019, 08:14 PM
#18
Originally Posted by
smitty55
I can't see a judge expecting the average citizen to know all of the likely thousands of bylaws on the books.
It’s your responsibility and due diligence. Did anyone get a notice new gun or magazine bans?
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August 23rd, 2019, 08:15 PM
#19
Copper nails! Still just saying....
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August 23rd, 2019, 09:19 PM
#20
Originally Posted by
MarkB
Don't get me started. In Oakville you need a permit to remove ANY tree over 15 cm in trunk diameter, irrespective of your property size.
I had one removed that was very close to my house (touching my roof). It cost me $600 for the permit, and they forced me to plant 2 more specified species of trees in my backyard (cost $320 for the pair), and it took 2 weeks to get the permit, after the town's arborist came to my site to review the "project" which I had to do during the weekday and missed 1 hour of work for. So, the permit costs were basically $920 and took 2 weeks. It took the tree removal company 2 hours to take down the tree, and charged me $400. Think about that ... sound fair, paying $920 in permit costs for a $400 tree removal, and it delayed a 2h job by 2 weeks?? ... and this was my tree, on my property.
But I was like ... okay, land conservation ... trees, nature, alright let's calm down ... that was until I found out that any major development is exempt from this by-law.
So, the reality is that the big developers can go cutting down 100's of trees, but the little guy that wants to remove a tree for good reasons is nailed. And get this, I asked the tree removal company what % of trees get removed by the little guy ... he says only 2%, the other 98% are from developments which are exempted ... total joke.
It's all about money, there's ZERO principle in any of this.
I am not sure for tree removal on private property here in Guelph,but as sure as h..ll the neighborhood "wilderness"from and old gravel pit,size about 0. 5square km with several 1000 of trees has been clear cut 2 years ago.When i inquired via e mail (sort of a complaint why they cut the forest down),i was told-it is being prepared for development,and the developer WILL plant new trees.
Now after 2 years,there is NOTHING happening there,we do not know who will develop,what and when?
So-why the needed to cut down 1000 of trees is a mystery for me.
That's about our City being a front runner in Environment protective actions(so they say ,we are..............)