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July 17th, 2018, 12:01 PM
#1
Requirements for trail riding near Calabogie?
I'd like to ride my ATV on the trails in the Calabogie area in the next couple of weeks. I understand that there are many trails on Crown land in that area, along with the K&P trail. I started looking online to determine whether I am supposed to get a (day) trail permit from the local ATV club, but it's unclear, and since many of the trails are on Crown land, I don't feel that I should need a trail pass.
Does anyone know for certain what the situation is in Calabogie? I don't want to drive all the way there towing my ATV just to find out that I "need" a trail pass to use these public trails.
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July 17th, 2018 12:01 PM
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July 17th, 2018, 08:03 PM
#2
I don't know if you have checked here OVATV club, you can get a 3 day pass for $50. If you use trails to access the crown land trails I highly believe you will need a pass of some sort. If you get an OFATV pass, they are accepted at any of the OFATV clubs in Ontario. http://ovatvc.org/trail-area/
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July 17th, 2018, 09:29 PM
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As a side note, keep an eye on things before you go, there was a brush fire up there a couple days ago, most places are a tinder box right now, one fire down by me was started by a logging machine.
https://www.insideottawavalley.com/n...-on-bush-fire/
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July 18th, 2018, 10:12 PM
#4
rf2 if you checkout this site the area around Calabogie is EOTA trails.
Yes you will need a trail pass. What makes you think they are all on Crown Land?
Government owned does not always = Crown Land. It depends on what level of government controls the land. The lower levels of government can control access and if the decide that a particular trail organization will be the the controlling authority you will require their or an approved trail pass. In this case a OFATV pass might not cut it.
https://qgiscloud.com/swhitehead/eot...=EOTA%20Trails
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July 19th, 2018, 07:44 AM
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Has too much time on their hands
Another instance of a flawed system.
Government owned should be accessible by all in the province. Same rules for everyone.
While they may grant stewardship this can simply be revoked - and should be.
Until Ontario sees this as a resource nothing will change - they need to take the townships out of the equation.
I’ve had enough discussions with my own councillors years back about Kawartha Lakes trail use and realized and was frankly told they can do whatever they like.
They are corporations but not crown corporations.
Good luck RF2. It is a nice area.
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July 19th, 2018, 07:59 AM
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If you plan on hitting the trails behind Mountain Chute Dam. You are in North Frontenac, and the township requires you buy a permit from them, no mater if its a dirt bike, atv, motorcycle or truck. Everyone pays.
Link to the sections that require a permit http://www.northfrontenacparklands.c...rmit%20Map.pdf
Everywhere else no permit required.
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July 19th, 2018, 08:07 AM
#7

Originally Posted by
Woodsman
rf2 if you checkout this site the area around Calabogie is EOTA trails.
Yes you will need a trail pass. What makes you think they are all on Crown Land?
Government owned does not always = Crown Land. It depends on what level of government controls the land. The lower levels of government can control access and if the decide that a particular trail organization will be the the controlling authority you will require their or an approved trail pass. In this case a OFATV pass might not cut it.
https://qgiscloud.com/swhitehead/eot...=EOTA%20Trails
All of those trails are on crown land controlled by the MNRF, with the exception of some roads in North Frontenac Township.
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July 19th, 2018, 08:21 AM
#8
All this "trail permit" stuff needs to be streamlined with ONE province-wide permit much the same as a Provincial Park pass for off-road access,inclusively. The current disjointed "system" is a total PITA.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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July 19th, 2018, 08:25 AM
#9

Originally Posted by
Woodsman
rf2 if you checkout this site the area around Calabogie is EOTA trails.
Yes you will need a trail pass. What makes you think they are all on Crown Land?
Government owned does not always = Crown Land. It depends on what level of government controls the land. The lower levels of government can control access and if the decide that a particular trail organization will be the the controlling authority you will require their or an approved trail pass. In this case a OFATV pass might not cut it.
https://qgiscloud.com/swhitehead/eot...=EOTA%20Trails
Thank you for the information. From this thread I have three people pointing me to three different sites which each claim that they have jurisdiction over the trails in the area. Very confusing. I guess I will have to make some calls to find out what the situation is, although I was really hoping that someone on this forum had been there recently and could tell me what the situation is.
I'd just like to point out that I never said that I believed that all of the trails around there are on Crown land. Regarding why I believe that many of the trails are on Crown land around Calabogie, I've read online about this on "official looking" sites. Furthermore, the MNRF Crown Land Use Policy Atlas (http://www.gisapplication.lrc.gov.on...A&locale=en-US) indicates it as such.
Last edited by rf2; July 19th, 2018 at 08:28 AM.
Reason: updated - more sites claiming jursidiction were added
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July 19th, 2018, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
B Wilson
If you plan on hitting the trails behind Mountain Chute Dam. You are in North Frontenac, and the township requires you buy a permit from them, no mater if its a dirt bike, atv, motorcycle or truck. Everyone pays.
Link to the sections that require a permit
http://www.northfrontenacparklands.c...rmit%20Map.pdf
Everywhere else no permit required.
Thanks for the info. I was thinking more about the trails near Barret Chute. I was aware about the North Frontenac road access permit, but I wonder if I would also need some sort of ATV club permit to ride the trails around there. Some of the sites pointed out by a couple of posters indicate that they have jurisdiction over those trails (in the North Frontenac Parklands). It's extremely confusing, even more so when one considers the Crown land aspect.