Another " Mass Killing "

[jaycee]

Last nights Nat. News , it was reported that a " Mass Killing " took place in Texas be an " Ex , U.S. Air Force 26 year old serviceman ", all dressed in black, walked into a Baptist Church and started shooting, killing 26 innocent people while they were praying .

Now according to Joepa,

[COLOR=#000000] "When you have a country where the people all look alike,think alike and act alike you have a much stronger country "

They did show a picture of the killer, and he did not look any different than anyone else but I guess that he did not think like all those innocent church goers , and he certainly did not act alike

What is going on ? Why is there so much hate there , that makes it unsafe to even go to church where up to now, was considered a safe haven , a place of peace !

[JoePa]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06...-killings.html

[Bonkers]

One shoe bomber tried to blow up a plane and now we take off our shoes. 1520 mass shootings since Sandy Hook and US Congress has done NOTHING.

[sawbill]

There is some meat to Joe's comment if you look at China for example. The murder rate there is 1/100,000 while the murder rate in the States is 4.5/100,000.

I know there are other mitigating factors such as 'Freedom of Expression' in the States but it seems to eventually come down to the number of firearms available to Americans and the availability of non-state sponsored news media that carry these shootings in depth giving shooters their moment of glory.

[jaycee]

There is some meat to Joe's comment if you look at China for example. The murder rate there is 1/100,000 while the murder rate in the States is 4.5/100,000.

I know there are other mitigating factors such as 'Freedom of Expression' in the States but it seems to eventually come down to the number of firearms available to Americans and the availability of non-state sponsored news media that carry these shootings in depth giving shooters their moment of glory.

The penalty for murder in China is very strict "Death ", the penalty for much lesser crimes is also "Death " or at the very least, "Life in prison " and by that they do mean "Life " . you are there doing hard labour till you die!

There are however other major crimes in China:

Corruption[COLOR=#54595D][edit[COLOR=#54595D]]

Further information: Corruption in China
The PRC is a one-party state ruled by the Communist Party of China,^[9] Corruption exists in China.^[10][11] just like in any other country. The cost thereof to the economy is significant. Between 1978 and 2003, an estimated $50 billion was smuggled out of the country by corrupt officials.^[12]
Human trafficking[COLOR=#54595D][edit[COLOR=#54595D]]

Further information: Human trafficking in China
There are instances of human trafficking reported in China for various purposes.^[13] The majority of trafficking in PRC is internal and this domestic trafficking is the most significant human trafficking problem in the country.^[13]
Women are lured through false promises of legitimate employment into commercial sexual exploitation in Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, and Japan.^[13] Chinese men are smuggled to countries throughout the world for exploitative labor.^[13] Women and children are trafficked into PRC from Mongolia, Burma, North Korea, Russia, and Vietnam for forced labor and sexual slavery.^[13]
Drug trade[COLOR=#54595D][edit[COLOR=#54595D]]

Further information: Illegal drug trade in China
PRC is a major transshipment point for heroin produced in the Golden Triangle.^[13] Growing domestic drug abuse is a significant problem in PRC.^[13] Available estimates place the domestic spending on illegal drugs to be $17 billion.^[14]
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Further information: Domestic violence in China
China has a high rate of domestic violence.^[15] In 2004, the All-China Women’s Federation compiled survey results to show that thirty percent of the women in China experienced domestic violence within their homes.^[16]
The true extent of domestic violence is unclear due to the lack of related law and execution of the law. The Chinese government is in the process of "planning" to pass a "draft of anti-domestic violence law".^[15]
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Illegal guns[COLOR=#54595D][edit[COLOR=#54595D]]

From January to July 1996, approximately 300,000 illegal small arms were seized from fourteen provinces of the country.<sup>[9]


It is by far "not a nice place to live "</sup>

[Fisherman]

Lots of wacko's out there, the thing is, guns are just a more efficient method of killing available to the general public. If they weren't available then the wacko's would resort to something else such as running into crowds at high speed with cars and trucks.

[sawbill]

JC, Its often been said that a person does not commit a crime with the thought that they'd ever be caught. Even when one commits murder, the idea that they are going to be caught does not enter into the commission of that crime so facing a death penalty or life imprisonment is no deterrent.
If you ever watch 48 Hours there is a certain element of American society that immediately revert to a firearm at the slightest provocation. If they had no firearm available and could only resort to fisticuffs in the heat of the moment I suspect there'd be far fewer murders, just more black eyes.

[JUDGE]

Don't worry there will be many more. Usually one per week.

[Bonkers]

Don't worry there will be many more. Usually one per week.

There's on average 2 per day

[JoePa]

This just proves my point - too much diversity - at one point things like this were very rare when most people were like minded - now you have large number of people with all kind of thought, cultures, background, morality, etc. etc. - things are only going to get worse - its is getting to a point that you better be packing when you go anywhere - it wasn't like that when I was growing up - we never locked our doors - left the keys in the ignition - girls could take a walk after dark - most people believed that a person would have to answer to their creator for what they did in this life - life was considered precious - even in the womb - the whole society is going down the tubes - bad behavior is accepted while good behavior is scorned - just look that the crap on TV - look at our public schools - they are more like zoos than a place of learning - no wonder many look at Western society as evil - in the meantime make sure you have enough ammo -