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    I sprayed chemical pesticides/herbicides as a nursery/greenhouse grower , vegetable crop grower etc on and off for the last 35 years.
    Well, now we know!

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    Now you know !

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    There seems to be an echo on this thread !

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    It's from the Scott Air Pac mask........I used to hate hearing that little ringing bell, always gave me a start....ESPECIALLY when already inside a fully encapsulated chem suit.

    Where is my pocket knife.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
    Plus the GMO of the wheat/corn/rice/etc.

    It is more and more difficult to eat anything without the added pesticides, herbicides, defoliates, antibiotics and growth hormones.
    There is no GMO wheat, oats or rice grown anywhere in the world yet.


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    A GMO rice with high vitamin A levels designed to prevent blindness in third world countries where a lack of vitamin A causes blindness was never released because of foolish opposition> There is a risk benefit here... a rice with high vitamin A would prevent a lot of blindness in some third world countries... and there is no known risk to feeding it. I would rather feed that rice to my children than have them blind.
    There is a risk benefit to using a gun to kill a turkey or deer. I get to have fun put food in my freezer and I might accidently get hurt from a firearm.
    There is a risk benefit to driving my car... I could get killed but I do not have to walk... I also cause a bit of pollution. I like my car, I like my gun and I would feed that rice if I lived a poor country with low vitamin A availability .

    Of the three things above the riskiest thing might be driving my car

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    Quote Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
    Not trying to start an argument, however I strongly believe organic mercury accumulates, especially in the food chain AND inorganic mercury can turn into an organic compound like methylmercury, which accumulates.

    So it would seem that all mercury exposure has a real potential to accumulate in the human body.

    Disclaimer.....I am rusty on my Univ. A&P, Zoology and Chemistry so........
    Yes they BOTH can build up from exposure, but organic mercury levels can be reduced by the body if and when exposure is removed.

    Best to avoid excessive exposure to start with, but what defines excessive? 10 micrograms a month? Or 10 milligrams a month?
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariofarmer View Post
    There is no GMO wheat, oats or rice grown anywhere in the world yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariofarmer View Post
    A GMO rice with high vitamin A levels designed to prevent blindness in third world countries where a lack of vitamin A causes blindness was never released because of foolish opposition> There is a risk benefit here... a rice with high vitamin A would prevent a lot of blindness in some third world countries... and there is no known risk to feeding it. I would rather feed that rice to my children than have them blind.
    There is a risk benefit to using a gun to kill a turkey or deer. I get to have fun put food in my freezer and I might accidently get hurt from a firearm.
    There is a risk benefit to driving my car... I could get killed but I do not have to walk... I also cause a bit of pollution. I like my car, I like my gun and I would feed that rice if I lived a poor country with low vitamin A availability .

    Of the three things above the riskiest thing might be driving my car

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    Not exactly correct, I believe you mean GMO wheat hasn't been approved by the United States USDA. It (GMO wheat) does exist, along with GMO "Golden Rice" since the late 1980s(which is the rice you referenced, I think, and if uncontrolled what keeps it from cross pollination and then mutation into a different strain of wheat? Or to prevent other non compliant USDA use?

    If you wish to provide GMO foods to your family that should be your choice, however many consumers don't wish to consume GMO products and that should be their choice.

    Besides, you as a farmer likely care not from where your grain profits come from, whether Non GMO or from GMO. In fact that actually broadens and diversifies your crops AND your $/acre margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
    Not exactly correct, I believe you mean GMO wheat hasn't been approved by the United States USDA. It (GMO wheat) does exist, along with GMO "Golden Rice" since the late 1980s(which is the rice you referenced, I think, and if uncontrolled what keeps it from cross pollination and then mutation into a different strain of wheat? Or to prevent other non compliant USDA use?

    If you wish to provide GMO foods to your family that should be your choice, however many consumers don't wish to consume GMO products and that should be their choice.

    Besides, you as a farmer likely care not from where your grain profits come from, whether Non GMO or from GMO. In fact that actually broadens and diversifies your crops AND your $/acre margin.
    There is no commercially available GMO oats wheat or rice used anywhere in the world
    As a farmer I want to make a living and be a good steward of the environment and produce good healthy food.
    I think GMO food is safe but if the consumer does not want it I will not produce it. Demand will control what is produced.

    The consumer demands sugar salt processed foods causing heart disease diabetes obesity. All more harmful that GMO food. The consumer eats too much food which is way worse than any poorly documented harm from GMO food.

    GMO corn containing the BT gene controls corn borer eliminating the need for insecticides. The BT bacteria is sprayed on organic food to control insects so that is ok because it is a natural control. But it is not ok when it is put in a corn plant. Is that logical.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariofarmer View Post
    There is no GMO wheat, oats or rice grown anywhere in the world yet.


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    Genetically Modified Foods,

    Genetically modified foods or GM foods, also known as genetically engineered foods or bioengineered foods, are foods produced from organisms that have had changes introduced into their DNA using the methods of genetic engineering. Genetic engineering techniques allow for the introduction of new traits as well as greater control over traits than previous methods such as selective breeding and mutation breeding.[1]

    The above is done , using no dangerous chemicals.



    The difference between GMO'D foods and chemically treated is like the difference in day and night, we have been eating GMO foods for a long time .

    It is the chemically treated foods or the addition of dangerous chemicals to or into our food that I have been referring to all this time in my posts
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