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May 2nd, 2017, 02:03 PM
#61
Originally Posted by
fishermccann
I believe abortion, euthanasia, are choices you can make for yourself, should be available and you must request them.
How the hell does a baby make a choice?
I assume you are also aware that long before Canadians started talking about euthanasia, health professionals had been making those choices for people for decades.
As far as your when does life begin - the only people on the planet still holding to the "at birth" mantra are the pro-abortionists.
But even for those - what about "live birth abortions" and yes - its just what it sounds like.
But you may be right. Canada is not a civilised country.... Because a civilised country looks after those that cannot look after themselves.
"What do the experts say?
"The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that human life begins at conception - fertilization…. Scientific and medical discoveries over the past three decades have only verified and solidified this age-old truth. At the completion of the process of fertilization, the human creature emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is not one of personhood but of development. The Mission of the American College of Pediatricians is to enable all children to reach their optimal physical and emotional health and well-being from the moment of conception."
When Human Life Begins, American College of Pediatricians, March 2004"
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May 2nd, 2017 02:03 PM
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May 2nd, 2017, 02:26 PM
#62
I have no problem with Dr. H Morgantaler or Dr. J. Kevorkian providing a requested service.
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May 2nd, 2017, 02:48 PM
#63
Originally Posted by
Fox
Are you ok with killing someone who did not do anything? If you are then I disagree with you and capital punishment. If you not ok with killing someone that is innocent then you cannot accept capital punishment as there are many proven cases where people have been murdered by the state in the US.
You can always say Bernardo and you will have people willing to kill him but what about the guy Russell Williams was working to frame (neighbour), he was planting DNA and boot prints and tons of evidence. If the police did not get a lucky break that neighbour would have been brought up on charges, I mean, a Major could not do such things, you see the problem here?
Yes I will always mention Bernardo/Homolka, [she is just as guilty ], the reason being that it could have been my niece as she went to school with those girls , and knew them well , they didn't live that far away., [ Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffey.]
Fortunately my niece married a super nice guy who also went to the same school, he became an OPP Officer, and is now one of the Top Cops [OPP], detachments in most of southern on. answer to him.
Don't know what his rank is .
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May 2nd, 2017, 02:49 PM
#64
Originally Posted by
fishermccann
I have no problem with Dr. H Morgantaler or Dr. J. Kevorkian providing a requested service.
By your own definition then, you are uncivilised.
I'd have no problem with the department of corrections providing a similar service for inmates convicted of manslaughter.
Calling it a "service" doesn't change what it is.
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May 2nd, 2017, 02:53 PM
#65
Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
By your own definition then, you are uncivilised.
I'd have no problem with the department of corrections providing a similar service for inmates convicted of manslaughter.
Calling it a "service" doesn't change what it is.
Thanks Werner, my sentiments exactly!
Bring back the firing squad, one bullet cheap and quick.
There are many that feel this way , convicted murder's have given up their right to life in our opinion
Last edited by jaycee; May 2nd, 2017 at 03:01 PM.
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May 2nd, 2017, 03:36 PM
#66
Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Civilized people do not kill people, except to preserve life.
Tell us by your great logic, where or how or in what category , civilized or uncivilized , do you place convicted murder's /killers?
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May 2nd, 2017, 03:56 PM
#67
[QUOTE=jaycee;1025490]Well here's one for you Sharon, I am sure you are familiar with this case.
Don Frigo shot and killed by Boris Panovski,, this was first degree murder, and attempted murder of Frigo's wife, all over jealousy about dogs as Panovski was a former dog trainer for Don Frigo.
How do you feel about that, there was no mistakes made by the police, just good investigation, Panovski found guilty and sentenced to whatever term length in prison where he will be looked after , including dental, medical care and well fed, even has the choice of taking degree courses all on our money , mine and your hard earned dollars being spent to keep the bu$$tards alive, makes me want to wretch............................................ .................." quote
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As sad as that event still makes me, Boris has not yet come to trial due to mental health issues. No execution of the mentally ill imo.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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May 2nd, 2017, 05:15 PM
#68
[QUOTE=Sharon;1025517]
Originally Posted by
jaycee
Well here's one for you Sharon, I am sure you are familiar with this case.
Don Frigo shot and killed by Boris Panovski,, this was first degree murder, and attempted murder of Frigo's wife, all over jealousy about dogs as Panovski was a former dog trainer for Don Frigo.
How do you feel about that, there was no mistakes made by the police, just good investigation, Panovski found guilty and sentenced to whatever term length in prison where he will be looked after , including dental, medical care and well fed, even has the choice of taking degree courses all on our money , mine and your hard earned dollars being spent to keep the bu$$tards alive, makes me want to wretch............................................ .................." quote
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As sad as that event still makes me, Boris has not yet come to trial due to mental health issues. No execution of the mentally ill imo.
The big question is , was he mentally ill at the time of the killing?
I doubt very much that he was , a mentally ill person wouldn't have the mental capacity to preplan a murder the way he had and then go into hiding he was very mentally capable at the time , IMO.
After he had been apprehended, he starts claiming he is mentally ill, if you believe that, well??? what can I say.
Panovski Trial Starts Next Spring In Goderich
BY JANICE MACKAYJUNE 3, 2016 2:21PM
A trial date has finally been set for the man who allegedly shot a husband and wife at the Hullet Wildlife area near Clinton.
Boris Panovski was arrested after Don Frigo of Scarborough was shot and Killed, and his wife, Eva Willer was shot and injured September 13, 2014.
Panovski, 72, faces charges of first degree murder at the trial starting with jury selection on April 24, 2017 in a Goderich Courtroom.
The trial will likely last a few weeks.
Last edited by jaycee; May 2nd, 2017 at 05:37 PM.