DRONES

As some here may already know I have an acerage which has some very knarly holes. I guess it has a few of our dwindling deer herd because of this jungle type terrain. I want to see what's going on there without killing myself. So I'm thinking DRONE. Can anyone recommend one good enough to take video, strap my gopro to, live feed back to my phone or however it images it does well enough and no crashes etc, but will still leave me mortgage free I'd appreciate.

Ideally it would some how give me feedback as to where it was while it took film, cause coming back with loads of pics but I can't plot them on map ain't to good

Wow I woulda thought one person on here would know about em

Holy smokes, you post last night at 8;19 and looking for suggestions 12 hours later. The crowd that can supply answers were out partying at 8:00 last night and are still recovering at this time.

I sure some techy will supply an answer.. Be patient, don't move in your stand the deer may hear you!

LOL

Dick

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Originally Posted by BDH

Holy smokes, you post last night at 8;19 and looking for suggestions 12 hours later. The crowd that can supply answers were out partying at 8:00 last night and are still recovering at this time.

I sure some techy will supply an answer.. Be patient, don't move in your stand the deer may hear you!

LOL

Dick

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I was going to say similar - they likely aren't home from last night yet..

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Dick

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agreed

I would look for some other camera type forums for information. Google can be your friend!
Just be careful about how you use the drone as using it for scouting may be considered as hunting by MNR. I believe there have been some posts about this or possible an article in OOD magazine.

Starting to look like DJI phantom 3 pro is the ticket

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Originally Posted by JMatthews

Just be careful about how you use the drone as using it for scouting may be considered as hunting by MNR.

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I didn't know the "METRO NORTH RAIL" still ran. That's about all I've seen MNR mean in the last 2+ decades

I do a lot of research for drones, so maybe I can fill in you on this. There are lot of drones out there but if you want to be able have 20+ min in the air and live feed to your tablet on the ground. Yes its possible, but you're looking to spend in total of $2000 CDN, easy.

Start looking to 3DR's (3drobotics.com) earlier models under hobby and mapping section can fill in the minimum requirements for you. Plus they have some of the free software available for pre-flight programing your drone path and emergency landing. I do recommend it based on research for new users, but again its not a cheap toy, you crash, you cry.

Another is uh... DJJ (djj.com) one of the biggest marketers in drones too; same competition but price varies.

If you want a custom built; go to hobbyking.com and start picking out your own pre-build drone from the community of 3DR; http://diydrones.com/

I should mention, buy a small simple drone for indoor training. shouldn't be longer than 20-30 cm. Trust me, without auto pilot feature, its harder than it looks. use an empty space to test it out, then use the drone from standing still to move around obstacles (not people) if you have depth perception up to 25 yards.

You want instant answers the GOOGLE it! Otherwise wait till the rest of the world catches up to you!

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Originally Posted by standup

As some here may already know I have an acerage which has some very knarly holes. I guess it has a few of our dwindling deer herd because of this jungle type terrain. I want to see what's going on there without killing myself. So I'm thinking DRONE. Can anyone recommend one good enough to take video, strap my gopro to, live feed back to my phone or however it images it does well enough and no crashes etc, but will still leave me mortgage free I'd appreciate.

Ideally it would some how give me feedback as to where it was while it took film, cause coming back with loads of pics but I can't plot them on map ain't to good

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In the most recent OOD Magazine there's an article that outlines the do's and don'ts when it comes to drones and hunting / scouting. It outlines that scouting is considered hunting and is illegal to use - just a heads up!

Now, if you were just taking some aerial pictures of the property, that's another thing altogether.

FishFrenzy

There are samples of some of the drones images and some discussion on this post you might find interesting.

http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...t-you-have-got

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Originally Posted by standup

As some here may already know I have an acerage which has some very knarly holes. I guess it has a few of our dwindling deer herd because of this jungle type terrain. I want to see what's going on there without killing myself. So I'm thinking DRONE. Can anyone recommend one good enough to take video, strap my gopro to, live feed back to my phone or however it images it does well enough and no crashes etc, but will still leave me mortgage free I'd appreciate.

Ideally it would some how give me feedback as to where it was while it took film, cause coming back with loads of pics but I can't plot them on map ain't to good

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I've been thinking the same for my property.
After lots of web research it looks like the DJI Phantom Series is highly preferred--when it works well. But their service department is abysmal according to virtually all web sites.
The Yuneec Typhoon--specifically the Q500 4K model is well liked and most claim a very good service department.

Lots of other drones on the market but so far Yuneec sounds like the best with the combination of long run time, spare battery in the box, good range, easy flight.

I'll probably think and read for the rest of the winter and then buy in spring.

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Originally Posted by FishFrenzy

In the most recent OOD Magazine there's an article that outlines the do's and don'ts when it comes to drones and hunting / scouting. It outlines that scouting is considered hunting and is illegal to use - just a heads up!

Now, if you were just taking some aerial pictures of the property, that's another thing altogether.

FishFrenzy

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This is were I really wish we had a CO who could speak for the MNR on this site.

Where do you draw the line?
Clearly it's illegal to drone-scout and hunt the same day.
But what if I just like aerial video of my property and I just happen to come upon a bedding area or major deer trails that I never knew about before.
If I find it this year but hunt next year-- surely that's not illegal.
If I find it tomorrow and do a sneak hunt or multi-hunter drive tomorrow, that clearly illegal.

So what is the answer? How many days between drone flight and hunting is legal?

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Originally Posted by johny

This is were I really wish we had a CO who could speak for the MNR on this site.

Where do you draw the line?
Clearly it's illegal to drone-scout and hunt the same day.
But what if I just like aerial video of my property and I just happen to come upon a bedding area or major deer trails that I never knew about before.
If I find it this year but hunt next year-- surely that's not illegal.
If I find it tomorrow and do a sneak hunt or multi-hunter drive tomorrow, that clearly illegal.

So what is the answer? How many days between drone flight and hunting is legal?

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Great question! I would think next day would be acceptable, but who knows... how would they prove that an aerial survey was just that, and not scouting? Coming across the location of a bedding area while not actively scouting, but then using the knowledge to your benefit would mean that you were unintentionally scouting??

Our moose camp left my cousins drone at home to avoid any of these issues, but I'd love to understand more about how these rules are enforced. I'd imagine they're needing to make these rules up as they go to try and keep up with newly accessible technology.

FishFrenzy

I'm not a hunter but would think if the Drone is being flown on YOUR Property you wouldn't have a problem as your just checking out to see if any illegal hunters are trespassing on your property, how do you know it isn't a ""Hunter bedding down"". :) :)

One thing we know for sure about the use and where of flying them.
You cannot fly them within 9 kilometers of any airport. At Region of Waterloo Int. Airport there have been a couple of incidents with pilots seeing them , one was reported as being within 3 meters of a plane taking after it had taken off from the airport .

Some people just do not use their brains.

Drones, trail cams with cellular capability. Not sure we are heading in the right direction here. Keep changing the game and making it easier but don't complain when they cutback on tags and opportunities when hunters become more efficient and success rates rise. We enjoyed hunting just as much without these aids. Once upon a time you had a compass and a rifle.

How would a CO prove you were scouting your property and where does it say I cannot overfly my property for whatever reasons and hunt the same day!

Why go through the expense of buying a drone unless you are specifically using it to spot actual deer on your property? which could possibly lead to problems with the C.O.'S if reported by someone and consequently caught.

You can go to "google earth " and bring your property up on the screen and actually see the whole picture, you can also find out how far things are from one point to another in either meters or yards. You can find out what neighboring properties look like without annoying any one , all from the comfort of your home .

A friend of mine bought 800 acres [an old farm] in the Loring area , just by going to " google earth" it is easy to find and see landmarks or land features [gravel pits , wet areas , creeks etc. ] in relationship to where they actually are on his land.

My neighbor used "google earth " maps instead of a survey [ costly ] as requested by the Region of Hamilton , to get actual distances from the main road that they live on and corner side road , this was used to get a building permit. This was reluctantly accepted by them and readily by the conservation authority and the permit was obtained.

Well there in lies the prob. Earth is as clear as the pic takers can be bothered. And as soon as you try to go lower than 500M on my prop it's haze. Trying to see if there's a hole in a rock face through haze is a trick