Canada In Trouble

We Americans are looking at what is going on in Canada and shake our heads - because of some demonstrations the place has turned into a dictatorship over night - sure there was some inconvenience to some people but that is part of living in a democracy where people can demonstrate - things will never be the same with the way we view Canada -

I lived and worked in Canada back in the early 60s - people often asked me how I viewed Canadians - I had some very nice friends in Canada and still communicate with some of them - the main differences that I noticed was that the average Canadian was more liberal - less religious - and milder mattered - I believe these traits leave more room for what has recently happened up there -

If what is happening right now up there would happen here there would be an all out war - I hope I didn't break any forum rules by stating this - its just my views - ain't advocating any violence - as you all know I'm a peace loving old teddy bear

hmm, Capitol Building "attack" last year, around this time .... can you enlighten us why this war did not start after that ?

I was not born in 60s, but im sure average Canadian is still same. dont listen to the main stream media ...

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Originally Posted by JoePa

We Americans are looking at what is going on in Canada and shake our heads - because of some demonstrations the place has turned into a dictatorship over night - sure there was some inconvenience to some people but that is part of living in a democracy where people can demonstrate - things will never be the same with the way we view Canada -

I lived and worked in Canada back in the early 60s - people often asked me how I viewed Canadians - I had some very nice friends in Canada and still communicate with some of them - the main differences that I noticed was that the average Canadian was more liberal - less religious - and milder mattered - I believe these traits leave more room for what has recently happened up there -

If what is happening right now up there would happen here there would be an all out war - I hope I didn't break any forum rules by stating this - its just my views - ain't advocating any violence - as you all know I'm a peace loving old teddy bear

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Its true joe America is very good at being aggressive and starting wars all over the globe especially if they have Republican Governments but they are pretty terrible at winning wars.
What you see in Canada is a copy cat of what happened on Capitol Hill with again the right taking the law into their own hands and attempting in both instances to overthrow a duly elected government.
In both instances they failed, our Government did not call in the militia but gave the citizens three weeks to go away.
Even after three weeks when the police were used they did not use excessive force.

If I was to chose between what happened in Ottawa and lets say Kent State University where unarmed students were gunned down, I think I chose Canada.

Canada is just plain screwed under the Trudeau LIbErals. Violence against protesters, the lies, the seizing of bank accounts, the power grab that they are planning on making permanent and the accomplices that will lie, distract and like it.

Trudeau's oppressive crackdown and violence and threats as offensive and Freeland's comments about making some changes permanent a threat to human rights, freedoms and democracy. Seizing a single mom's bank account for example, her crime, she sent $50 to the truckers... banking trust, government trust, media trust ... #CanadaisFUBAR under #WorstPMEver
https://www.facebook.com/TuckerCarls...3869022034028/

India's take on "the violent crackdown", "turned Canada into a warzone"
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=356507959477678

It reminds me exactly of a bit of history from the National Socialist and the 1933 Enabling Act being put in place!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933
Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich ("Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich"), was a law that gave the German Cabinet—most importantly, the Chancellor—the powers to make and enforce laws without the involvement of the Reichstag or Weimar President Paul von Hindenburg. Critically, the Enabling Act allowed the Chancellor to bypass the system of checks and balances in the government and the laws created under it could explicitly violate individual rights prescribed in the Weimar Constitution



.. and an intellectual look at it, clearly not what the left is morally and mentally capable of acknowledging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5efyUt5YDU0

They have set a president that will be used again and again and the power it grants to the PM and his cronies likely on any issue where Canadians stand up for freedoms and rights. They will blame the right, they will blame free press, they will blame truckers as being white supremacist (even those most are Sikh etc) and they will distract and lie to get more powers!



They are working for Trudeau's favourite style of government. A simple meeting and a timelines (even if it is a lie) would have defused this but they exacerbated it as far as they could and chose what essentially is dictatorial in nature! AFTER the protest had been cleared, no justification except they wanted the power!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHUhfmlzXk

Funny story Joepa, it seems our neighbours garden was overrun by some bad weeds for about 4 years. In that time some seeds managed to blow this way. Now we’re clearing our garden of those weeds to ensure a healthy crop for generations to come. You guys should consider getting a weed wacker. Cheers.:)

I agree 100% Joe it was our complacency and always looking at the bright side of things that got us here. It's sad to see now that when we need to assert our rights in order to just preserve them some are of the opinion that we are selfish, racist, hard right, or even a criminal fringe minority that hold unacceptable views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7WIlehKK-4

The reason the Jan 6 demonstrations were not more violent was most Americans were not sure if the corruption of the election was enough to change the outcome - the armed citizenry will only put up with so much before it explodes - one thing about freedom - it required people to fight and die for it - and often it requires the same effort to keep it -

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Its true joe America is very good at being aggressive and starting wars all over the globe especially if they have Republican Governments but they are pretty terrible at winning wars.
What you see in Canada is a copy cat of what happened on Capitol Hill with again the right taking the law into their own hands and attempting in both instances to overthrow a duly elected government.
In both instances they failed, our Government did not call in the militia but gave the citizens three weeks to go away.
Even after three weeks when the police were used they did not use excessive force.

If I was to chose between what happened in Ottawa and lets say Kent State University where unarmed students were gunned down, I think I chose Canada.

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A copy cat of the capital lol. Is it also compatible to 911 that the media compares to. Its not even close but hey.

Ps if the government takes opportunities without public interest during a pandemic then they and the media mislead the public in so many ways. Definitely didn't follow the science on mandates did they.

Let us know the opportunities Covid-19 will bring. This is from the WEF website and should be talked about or toss the government out .

What are the planes who's involved yes the public should be aware of reshaping the world . What does that mean?

What opportunities are we taking
Any since we can adapt easily they will do what ever.

Opportunitie

"When the pandemic first hit, many people,including me, talked about using this as an opportunity to reshape our world for the better. We were inspired by humanity’s response to the crisis and our ability to adapt."







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The USA one should be good I mean the convoy . Not sure if they have the same intentions in staying or not but there will be disruptions for about a week as they drive across the states.


You might have the the biggest most peaceful protests in history lol. The truckers are all calling for peaceful protesters in turns to a giant party lol. They gotta get out the bouncy castles and hot tubs bring in live bands for all those angry extremists.

It's a shame Canada is in the state it's in.



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Originally Posted by JoePa

one thing about freedom - it required people to fight and die for it - and often it requires the same effort to keep it -

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That concept is completely foreign to Canadians because most weren't around during WW2. Revisionist leftist history is the only history taught in Canadian schools from Grade 7 through to the end of high school. The history of the Russian Revolution leading to Communism up until it's inevitable collapse,history of China,Viet Nam,Cambodia has never been part of civics classes,so,students have no idea what those totalitarian concepts were. That's why most Canadians can't (or won't) recognize it when they see it because they don't know what they're seeing happen right in front of their faces. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Funny story Joepa, it seems our neighbours garden was overrun by some bad weeds for about 4 years. In that time some seeds managed to blow this way. Now we’re clearing our garden of those weeds to ensure a healthy crop for generations to come. You guys should consider getting a weed wacker. Cheers.:)

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Nice analogy. I may have to borrow it.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That concept is completely foreign to Canadians because most weren't around during WW2. Revisionist leftist history is the only history taught in Canadian schools from Grade 7 through to the end of high school. The history of the Russian Revolution leading to Communism up until it's inevitable collapse,history of China,Viet Nam,Cambodia has never been part of civics classes,so,students have no idea what those totalitarian concepts were. That's why most Canadians can't (or won't) recognize it when they see it because they don't know what they're seeing happen right in front of their faces. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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I would say our youth inherited the freedom many died for, yes. They do learn about it at school as it is part of the curriculum. They are inundated with information of this nature every year during the week leading up to remembrance day. We need to have a bit more faith in this demographic. They have known nothing but freedom, and would know quickly if it were taken away. They are much more technologically savvy and would coordinate efforts much quicker than generations past.

What the issue looks to be is a small group of people are worried the sky is falling when no such thing is happening. Yet they are screaming at the top of their lungs to get attention for their paranoid driven beliefs.

Of course their is the odd chance that this is all a dream, and none of it is real.
Good old time and patience will figure this one out.

Democracy left Canada about 6 years ago

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Democracy left Canada about 6 years ago

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Come now GW, there will be a chance to vote and help form the future of Canada. We will all have our chance. Democracy is strong in Canada, but I think so is the level of mixed emotions or even general unhappiness. This too shall pass.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Democracy left Canada about 6 years ago

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The problem is Canada elects a dictator each time and this time it was an actual dictatorship admirer, once in Canadians just have no way to recall or kick out a politician once they are elected if they have a majority or support of another party with the same goals. Rex Murphy and Jordan Peterson give an excellent discussion of the disaster we have now.

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Come now GW, there will be a chance to vote and help form the future of Canada. We will all have our chance. Democracy is strong in Canada, but I think so is the level of mixed emotions or even general unhappiness. This too shall pass.

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I am sure the supporters of the National Socialists said that too in 1933 when the Enabling Act was put in place.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I would say our youth inherited the freedom many died for, yes. They do learn about it at school as it is part of the curriculum. They are inundated with information of this nature every year during the week leading up to remembrance day. We need to have a bit more faith in this demographic. They have known nothing but freedom, and would know quickly if it were taken away. They are much more technologically savvy and would coordinate efforts much quicker than generations past.

What the issue looks to be is a small group of people are worried the sky is falling when no such thing is happening. Yet they are screaming at the top of their lungs to get attention for their paranoid driven beliefs.

Of course their is the odd chance that this is all a dream, and none of it is real.
Good old time and patience will figure this one out.

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I disagree - not sure what the rest of you are seeing but my 12 and 10 year old tell me things that make me think they’re being indoctrinated with left-wing ideology. The lessons of history are not being passed on

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Its true joe America is very good at being aggressive and starting wars all over the globe especially if they have Republican Governments but they are pretty terrible at winning wars.
What you see in Canada is a copy cat of what happened on Capitol Hill with again the right taking the law into their own hands and attempting in both instances to overthrow a duly elected government.
In both instances they failed, our Government did not call in the militia but gave the citizens three weeks to go away.
Even after three weeks when the police were used they did not use excessive force.

If I was to chose between what happened in Ottawa and lets say Kent State University where unarmed students were gunned down, I think I chose Canada.

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Honestly Gilroy ??? I saw a peaceful protest, yes with some inconvenience for some residents which is regrettable but NECESSARY

you can bet your last dollar that if that protest was supporting Black Lives Matter, or LGBTQ rights, or First Nations, young Justin would be defending their rights of protest and likely flipping burgers to feed them.

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I disagree - not sure what the rest of you are seeing but my 12 and 10 year old tell me things that make me think they’re being indoctrinated with left-wing ideology. The lessons of history are not being passed on

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While the schools can’t cover every last piece of information, the main themes and ideas are covered. Of course it doesn’t hurt to supplement their education with some in-depth information from parents.

I do wonder, what kind of left wing indoctrination?

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Honestly Gilroy ??? I saw a peaceful protest, yes with some inconvenience for some residents which is regrettable but NECESSARY

you can bet your last dollar that if that protest was supporting Black Lives Matter, or LGBTQ rights, or First Nations, young Justin would be defending their rights of protest and likely flipping burgers to feed them.

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It’s not the protest. I’m not sure why people think that was the issue. It was the trucks and rv’s camping on a public road and blocking it that was the problem. If the campers and trucks left, the protest would still be going on without any emergencies act. Seriously!:

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Honestly Gilroy ??? I saw a peaceful protest, yes with some inconvenience for some residents which is regrettable but NECESSARY

you can bet your last dollar that if that protest was supporting Black Lives Matter, or LGBTQ rights, or First Nations, young Justin would be defending their rights of protest and likely flipping burgers to feed them.

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The protestors made their point in the first weekend. When they decided to entrench themselves in downtown Ottawa vowing to remain until they got what they wanted their actions went beyond a protest and became an illegal occupation that disrupted the lives and businesses of the people who live there. The rights of the people in Ottawa to live peacefully in their community outweighs the rights of protestors to squat in their streets indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The protestors made their point in the first weekend. When they decided to entrench themselves in downtown Ottawa vowing to remain until they got what they wanted their actions went beyond a protest and became an illegal occupation that disrupted the lives and businesses of the people who live there. The rights of the people in Ottawa to live peacefully in their community outweighs the rights of protestors to squat in their streets indefinitely.

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Not exactly. After the the first week of protesting the mandates the Conservatives put a motion to the floor to have the Liberal government lay out a time table and plan to lift the restrictions in Canada. This wasn't an unreasonable motion as most Canadians were watching countries around the world drop their mandates and the majority of the country yearned and still do for the easing of restrictions. The Liberal gov't supported by the NDP defeated the motion even after Chief Tam said it was time to let off the gas. Here we are a month later with no plan and even more governmental overreach. This could of all been over and done with had Trudeau followed the advice of his Chief medical officer and laid out a plan for reopening. Instead he chose to enact the EMA. These restrictions and overreach will continue until you wake up and unite with the majority of Canadians and peacefully just say no.

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The protestors made their point in the first weekend. When they decided to entrench themselves in downtown Ottawa vowing to remain until they got what they wanted their actions went beyond a protest and became an illegal occupation that disrupted the lives and businesses of the people who live there. The rights of the people in Ottawa to live peacefully in their community outweighs the rights of protestors to squat in their streets indefinitely.

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Actually that is wrong it wasn't the first weekend. It was the plan before they even started the trucks and drove across Canada

To bad the media and government ignored it.
Just call them the small fringe and other names .



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Originally Posted by fishfood

Actually that is wrong it wasn't the first weekend. It was the plan before they even started the trucks and drove across Canada

To bad the media and government ignored it.
Just call them the small fringe and other names .



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Can you tell me how they aren’t a small fringe?

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Not exactly. After the the first week of protesting the mandates the Conservatives put a motion to the floor to have the Liberal government lay out a time table and plan to lift the restrictions in Canada. This wasn't an unreasonable motion as most Canadians were watching countries around the world drop their mandates and the majority of the country yearned and still do for the easing of restrictions. The Liberal gov't supported by the NDP defeated the motion even after Chief Tam said it was time to let off the gas. Here we are a month later with no plan and even more governmental overreach. This could of all been over and done with had Trudeau followed the advice of his Chief medical officer and laid out a plan for reopening. Instead he chose to enact the EMA. These restrictions and overreach will continue until you wake up and unite with the majority of Canadians and peacefully just say no.

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The majority of Canadians did not support the protestors. No protest that occupies a downtown core for three weeks and requires force to remove it can be described as "peaceful."

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Can you tell me how they aren’t a small fringe?

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Any organization that starts out very small,but,suddenly ignites a movement of like-minded people who connect and contribute morally and financially from all over north America are anything BUT a "small fringe". To claim that shows how desparate Liberals really are,especially,a PM who attempts to minimalize and deflect to the degree he has. Enacting the EMA is another act of complete desparation of completely failed governance. Given the abject failure of this government,anyone with even a modicum of common decency would resign.

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Can you tell me how they aren’t a small fringe?

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Well if you think it's just the unvaccinated then you don't see the bigger picture. The are business owners, unvaccinated and fully vaccinated, people who have seen the vaccine injuries, people who made the choice in fear of loosing everything they have and being forced to take it. . It's people who have seen the lockdowns destroy their family by suicide other things . It's from the government overreach on mandates using everything in their power to push for vaccines while ignoring certain facts.

It's people who are upset with the lies and manipulation of our government and media.


Plenty more then just a few unvaccinated truckers. How much are the people supposed to take ? How many lies and manipulated stats are we supposed take without questions.


When the government uses a pandemic as an opportunity there is problem.

What about the the parental right taken away for teenagers to get the shot to go to the movies. ?

They are kids that were manipulated in taking an experimental jab with incentives like ice cream, cash and video games.

How many lies are the people supposed to hear before they stop trusting in our government?

I couldn't even go and see my dying grandmother that should be my choice not the governments. Instead she was left on her own to die .

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Can you tell me how they aren’t a small fringe?

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They crowd sourced $9.5 million on Go Fund Me and $2.5 million on Give Send Go. Who knows what the total would be if not shut down and under the threat of frozen bank accounts and assets. I'm not sure a small fringe is capable of creating an effect across the entire globe the way this has.

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They crowd sourced $9.5 million on Go Fund Me and $2.5 million on Give Send Go. Who knows what the total would be if not shut down and under the threat of frozen bank accounts and assets. I'm not sure a small fringe is capable of creating an effect across the entire globe the way this has.

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The government has stopped about 20 million in funding between 3 platforms.

Now they have to sell merchandise for the cause lol.
Rumor has it that only about 1 in 5 who support the movement were in person. Just because they were not on the front lines doesn't mean the supporters are not there.

So things could still get messy . I haven't been in person yet so busy had to get the car fixed working on my bathroom and life is keeping me with very little time . But we fully support what's happening and my wife is looking forward to the warmer weather to get out there lol.

7 of us here support the movement I can't add my youngest I haven't asked her and she hasn't told me lol.


So the boots on the ground is just a minority of supporters .





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But you all realize the majority of the mandates came from the provincial governments. Seems to me, they’re being let off the hook and most of the pent up anger is being directed at Trudeau. I’m just saying, it looks awfully convenient to rally around one joining cause (anti-liberal) when you feel your government of choice is not representing you. But the majority of these mandates that are directly affecting you are provincial jurisdiction. Yet there’s not many that went after Ford, Kenney or Moe (all conservative) in such a manner as they directed toward Trudeau. It appears convenient.

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But you all realize the majority of the mandates came from the provincial governments. Seems to me, they’re being let off the hook and most of the pent up anger is being directed at Trudeau. I’m just saying, it looks awfully convenient to rally around one joining cause (anti-liberal) when you feel your government of choice is not representing you. But the majority of these mandates that are directly affecting you are provincial jurisdiction. Yet there’s not many that went after Ford, Kenney or Moe (all conservative) in such a manner as they directed toward Trudeau. It appears convenient.

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Provincial governments can only do what the Feds tell them to do or the transfer of funds is heavily impacted. Rule #1 of every government is that poop rolls downhill.

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Honestly Gilroy ??? I saw a peaceful protest, yes with some inconvenience for some residents which is regrettable but NECESSARY

you can bet your last dollar that if that protest was supporting Black Lives Matter, or LGBTQ rights, or First Nations, young Justin would be defending their rights of protest and likely flipping burgers to feed them.

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Well you are not being honest with yourself and cherry picking your locations. None of the above mentioned groups have ever shut down a Capital City for three weeks, closed several border points and caused untold damage to the economy. Stop playing games.

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Honestly Gilroy ??? I saw a peaceful protest, yes with some inconvenience for some residents which is regrettable but NECESSARY

you can bet your last dollar that if that protest was supporting Black Lives Matter, or LGBTQ rights, or First Nations, young Justin would be defending their rights of protest and likely flipping burgers to feed them.

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Inconvenience? I see. Well actual I don’t. Tell that to the 1500 or so who were put out of work at the Rideau Centre. I think they might have a different opinion on inconvenience.

I did see Max B flipping pancakes there one Sunday morning. Also selling merch and signing up supporters.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That concept is completely foreign to Canadians because most weren't around during WW2. Revisionist leftist history is the only history taught in Canadian schools from Grade 7 through to the end of high school. The history of the Russian Revolution leading to Communism up until it's inevitable collapse,history of China,Viet Nam,Cambodia has never been part of civics classes,so,students have no idea what those totalitarian concepts were. That's why most Canadians can't (or won't) recognize it when they see it because they don't know what they're seeing happen right in front of their faces. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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Trying to compare what happened in any of those countries to Canada today is way... of. The veterans of the WW2 were real freedom fighters the rabble in Ottawa were as you say a spoiled rotten element of folks who have never known hunger or thirst or poverty.

They are so detached from reality that they actually believe they are freedom fighters and people like yourself who should know better are now their cheer leaders.

What we saw in Ottawa was a bunch of angry people who were not even sure what they were angry about or what they stood for with some dozens of different flags flying.

But they did not stand for democracy that is for sure, they were and are an anti democratic movement supported from the right.

I got a suggestion, all these Freedom fighters should be packing up and heading over to Ukraine to help out there fight for freedom.

I suspect this suggestion will be ignored, during the Afghan War and Iraqi War we had a whole bunch of big talkers on here who were saying how these wars were for freedom and democracy, when I offered to pay their bus fare down to the US Consulate to join up and ship of to fight, no takers........

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Well you are not being honest with yourself and cherry picking your locations. None of the above mentioned groups have ever shut down a Capital City for three weeks, closed several border points and caused untold damage to the economy. Stop playing games.

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The last rail blockade in Tyendinaga affected rail travel for over 100,000 Canadians. Via Rail shut down all passenger trains in the country and temporarily laid off over 1000 employees. CN suffered extreme economic damage and alleged $270 million in freight was hit due to blockades in northern BC.

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The last rail blockade in Tyendinaga affected rail travel for over 100,000 Canadians. Via Rail shut down all passenger trains in the country and temporarily laid off over 1000 employees. CN suffered extreme economic damage and alleged $270 million in freight was hit due to blockades in northern BC.

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Don’t confuse him with facts !!!!!

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Trying to compare what happened in any of those countries to Canada today is way... of. The veterans of the WW2 were real freedom fighters the rabble in Ottawa were as you say a spoiled rotten element of folks who have never known hunger or thirst or poverty.

They are so detached from reality that they actually believe they are freedom fighters and people like yourself who should know better are now their cheer leaders.

What we saw in Ottawa was a bunch of angry people who were not even sure what they were angry about or what they stood for with some dozens of different flags flying.

But they did not stand for democracy that is for sure, they were and are an anti democratic movement supported from the right.

I got a suggestion, all these Freedom fighters should be packing up and heading over to Ukraine to help out there fight for freedom.

I suspect this suggestion will be ignored, during the Afghan War and Iraqi War we had a whole bunch of big talkers on here who were saying how these wars were for freedom and democracy, when I offered to pay their bus fare down to the US Consulate to join up and ship of to fight, no takers........

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What does that make you then???

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The last rail blockade in Tyendinaga affected rail travel for over 100,000 Canadians. Via Rail shut down all passenger trains in the country and temporarily laid off over 1000 employees. CN suffered extreme economic damage and alleged $270 million in freight was hit due to blockades in northern BC.

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Remove rail lines from FN territory, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well you are not being honest with yourself and cherry picking your locations. None of the above mentioned groups have ever shut down a Capital City for three weeks, closed several border points and caused untold damage to the economy. Stop playing games.

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Trudeau has caused more damage to the economy by enacting the EMA than any blockade has. Who in their right mind would invest in Canada after watching that unhinged nightmare attack peoples bank accounts for donating to a freedom protest.

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Originally Posted by GloHole

Trudeau has caused more damage to the economy by enacting the EMA than any blockade has. Who in their right mind would invest in Canada after watching that unhinged nightmare attack peoples bank accounts for donating to a freedom protest.

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Most people don’t see it that way. Just some.

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Originally Posted by GloHole

What does that make you then???

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Well for one I was not huffing and puffing my chest out about some phoney democracy issue in Afghanistan, being able to see through the smoke screen and knowing it was all about oil and rare earth minerals. Or the war in Iraqi that was just about Oil.

The freedom fighters and defenders of democracy decided they were not shipping off to the desert. LOL

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Originally Posted by GloHole

Trudeau has caused more damage to the economy by enacting the EMA than any blockade has. Who in their right mind would invest in Canada after watching that unhinged nightmare attack peoples bank accounts for donating to a freedom protest.

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Apparently a lot of people, top on the list right now for people wanting to come here, top on the list for economic immigrant class wanting to come here and just yesterday I listened to an economist who was saying Canada was the new safe haven for money fleeing Europe because the US market is overpriced. Sunny ways....

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Most people don’t see it that way. Just some.

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Apparently 73% of the public want those insurgents to just go home, so I suppose they also support the EMA.

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy...ates-covid-19/

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Originally Posted by warpipe

The last rail blockade in Tyendinaga affected rail travel for over 100,000 Canadians. Via Rail shut down all passenger trains in the country and temporarily laid off over 1000 employees. CN suffered extreme economic damage and alleged $270 million in freight was hit due to blockades in northern BC.

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But look at the great risk involved for the original owners of Canada and who did not cede their territory, possibly being murdered by the OPP or being killed by the army, sent into action on them by previous Conservative Governments.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Apparently 73% of the public want those insurgents to just go home, so I suppose they also support the EMA.

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy...ates-covid-19/

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Yes, yes... did you read it.. some rather disgusting results, the media sure is working hard ... but even still
"Canadians are most critical of Trudeau: two-thirds (65%) say he has hurt the situation, three times as many who say he has helped (20%)"

Sad to think 20% are so out of touch with reality

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Yes, yes... did you read it.. some rather disgusting results, the media sure is working hard ... but even still
"Canadians are most critical of Trudeau: two-thirds (65%) say he has hurt the situation, three times as many who say he has helped (20%)"

Sad to think 20% are so out of touch with reality

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For context purposes 42% said the same for Bergen.

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Apparently a lot of people, top on the list right now for people wanting to come here, top on the list for economic immigrant class wanting to come here and just yesterday I listened to an economist who was saying Canada was the new safe haven for money fleeing Europe because the US market is overpriced. Sunny ways....

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A lot of people are putting up for sale signs and leaving after watching the show in Ottawa too and leaving Canada for good, some already seen this coming and fled. FYI US market is far more affordable than Canadas especially when the liberal gov't seizes your bank account for buying a T shirt that may change though if congress approves asylum to truckers and protestors. You might get your liberal majority after all. Sunny ways my friend have fun paying for it all. LMAO

Mexico is open to all Canadians even the truckers lol.


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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

For context purposes 42% said the same for Bergen.

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Based on the percentage of Lib and NDP that dogmatically disliked the protest.... should be a sign for the future, if there is anything salvageable left of Canada

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The majority of Canadians did not support the protestors. No protest that occupies a downtown core for three weeks and requires force to remove it can be described as "peaceful."

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Just about everyone I’ve discussed it with was supportive of the protest. Guess I’m not a high-society type …..

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Just about everyone I’ve discussed it with was supportive of the protest. Guess I’m not a high-society type …..

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https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nearly...rvey-1.5781022

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Nearly three-quarters of Canadians want convoy protesters to 'go home now': survey
Daniel Otis
CTVNews.ca Writer
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Published Monday, February 14, 2022 4:56PM EST
Last Updated Monday, February 14, 2022 4:56PM EST

Nearly three-quarters of Canadians want convoy protesters to “go home now,” according to a new survey from the Angus Reid Institute. The public opinion poll also found that more than two-thirds of Canadians think Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s actions have made the situation worse.

“If the goal of the Freedom Convoy was to capture the attention of millions of people in Canada and around the globe – mission accomplished,” the report from Angus Reid says. “If, however, the goal was to build support for their demands to end pandemic-related restrictions – it has backfired utterly.”

The survey comes after more than two weeks of protests against COVID-19 mandates in Ottawa and across Canada. The Trudeau government is now invoking the Emergencies Act to deal with ongoing demonstrations.

Seventy-two per cent of respondents in the Angus Reid poll said protesters should “go home now, they have made their point.” Ninety-three per cent supported some sort of action to remove them, with 68 per cent wanting the police or military to do so by force. Just 26 per cent said politicians should negotiate a solution. Forty-four per cent even said the protests made them more inclined to support measures like indoor masking and showing proof of vaccination at the Canada-U.S. border.

Only 22 per cent of respondents said protesters should “stay in Ottawa and other protest sites until their demands are met.”

Even if the majority of respondents weren’t supportive of continued protests, they certainly were paying attention: nearly two-thirds, or 64 per cent, reported they were following developments closely while just one per cent said they had never heard about them.

Respondents also blamed a cast of politicians for making matters worse, with 65 per cent pointing out Trudeau and 42 per cent criticizing interim Conservative leader Candice Bergen. The premiers of Ontario and Alberta were also similarly criticized by 50 and 49 per cent of respondents.

The findings were based on an online survey of 1,622 Canadian adults conducted between Feb. 11 and 13. The Angus Reid Institute describes itself as a national not-for-profit that conducts opinion polls and research on issues affecting Canadians.

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I think the protest started with a lot of support across Canada!
It quickly faded away when we found out how disorganized and disruptive they were.
IMO it could of been more meaningful and respectful if they would of have a clear mandate that was well presented without all the noise.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nearly...rvey-1.5781022

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All correspondents : 1622

There were more protestors then participants in this survey
Again one if those pollster who claim some major Canadian society support
You really gotta layoff of the polls. They rarely represent anything but a "supportive" prospective for whatever they to support

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Not a scientific poll, but on a construction site, mostly males but that is par for the course. 1 individual was totally against the convoy protest, believed they should all be arrested. As an aside he was a 2nd generation middle aged tradesman who was quite vocal with his opinion but not aggressive when debating these opinions.
Others who voiced their thoughts were mainly concerned with the mandates being forced on them as well as vaccine hesitancy and a lack of choice for their own bodies if they want to work on some sites.
As a result some companies have valuable journeypersons they can't send to bigger jobs causing backlogs on some sites due to lack of manpower.
Overall I find there are maybe a ratio of 3 supporters against mandates to 1 for, with the majority still unwilling to climb off the fence.
Myself, I have been jabbed but only to keep my job as the company I work for is on sites that are mandated.
I would not be jabbed if I was retired or could still make a paycheck without being jabbed. I feel I was forced but accepted it to survive in these times as a single income family.
Unofficially, with free choice I truly believe the # of jabbed would be under 40% of the informed ADULT population in Canada.
There is a use for this experimental vaccine among the elderly, those with underlying health issues and those who like to line up for the new shots, but as a healthy adult male I do not believe I need it at this time.
John