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CTV announced an election has been called...sounds like it'll be 20th Sept
Let the clown show begin!!!!
Dominion voting machines?....lol
Justin is going to win again because Aaron Oh Who is sleeping, there isn't enough time for him to make himself known (liked) by the GTA. He and his party have been fools for allowing him to sleep in.
I will agree justlied will get In again for the simple reason is that too many enjoy suckling off the government teat and silly socks is like a kid that just turned 19 and made his first visit to a strip joint just doling out the cash like there is no end to it. As for the Toole I'll compare him to oatmeal, dry and bland unfortunately he hasn't got a hope in hell and neither does Canada with turdeau at the helm.Quote:
Originally Posted by fratri
Mission .... stop a Liberal majority.
I'd rather have that guy Turdeau close parliament for the next 4 years, than have the power to make changes.
If you're in a strong Liberal riding...with "not a farts chance in a wind tunell" for the Cons...swing your vote to the NDP.
They're catching all the support the Liberals are shedding. That'll strip the Libs of a majority and we're back to a 'hard to swallow', but acceptable alternative.
They say great minds run in the same channel, I seem to be thinking in the same line. It’s called strategic voting, if you don’t think O’Toole has a chance, the solution might be for the Conservative voters to throw their weight behind the NDP and Jagmeet Singh. He appears to have a more progressive give away deal than JT. It might make for very interesting minority government for a couple of years and possibly set the Conservatives party up to hold the balance of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
I totally understand what you are saying Mike. I've voted for the right my entire life and won't vote any other way but a vote for the ndp would be harder for me to fathom than a vote for the libturds. I know turdeau is ruining the country hand over fist but it would be totally gutted if the ndp ever firmly got their hand on the cookie jar. Remember Bob Rae lol enough said.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Vote for your local MP! I’ll vote for a potted plant before I’d vote either NDP or Liberal!!!
O’Toole can’t be counted out yet! Has he not been elected and re-elected in his Durham riding, 905 area!!
It solves two problems..as I have said earlier, the Cons seriously should NOT want to take leadership of this mess. The budget (or lack there of) will be a burden and drag on the economy. No fixing that for years to come and whoever has to makes the cuts to make it happen will be turfed like the Liberals were in Ontario. They lost party status over the budget/economy issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Nut
AND...a Cons loss will result in turfing O'Toole....they need to get a leader the whole party will support. This fragmented party is its own worst enemy..NOT fit to lead a country right now.
It does not matter if he Liberals win a majority or not, the NDP will assist them in voting in none confidence motions and keep them in power as they have done during this term. If your stuck with a "hard to swallow" but acceptable alternative perhaps you should try and work out why you keep voting for an "out of touch" party with a leader who is the same. Canadians want a fair and compassionate party that represents all of them no matter what race or color or creed. Justin has done a fantastic job over the past two terms and will be rewarded for steering this fine country through a very difficult period.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Oh drop the BS about the Liberals Gil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Canadians are voting for Justin only because he is giving them "free" money, that somebody is going to have to pay back.
And yeah, inflation is through the roof in reality, so this is hurting the poor more than the rich.
Exactly MarkB, anyone that can't see that is either suckling on the government teat or is a daft as justlied!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Not entirely true. I know of a few die hard conservative voters that took advantage of the crb just because they wanted the free cash. It doesn’t make sense to preach about how crappy the liberals are, while taking advantage of there program. Hypocritical in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
But like Gilroy eluded to, the conservatives need to do MORE to popularize their position and party. It needs to stop looking like the “old boys club” and start looking like a serious option for Canada’s future for everyone and not just big business.
Why can’t they figure this out already?? It’s laughable and sad all at once. All the analysts and strategists they have and they have nothing to show for it. Absolutely disgraceful.
Didn't the conservatives amend the cerb to allow a recipient to earn $900 per month before they became ineligible before the bill was passed? Why wouldn't your conservative friends take the cerb if their ability to earn an income was terminated due to liberal miss management, incompetence and lies, the bills keep coming like passengers from Wuhan at an airport. Bills don't discriminate on the basis of who you voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
Michelle Remple has her say on the Village Idiots call for an Election.
https://www.facebook.com/michellerem...16645227063938
Although Michelle wants to oust Trudeau and makes some good points she is also a trained Globalist. Another reason why the Con party is in disarray.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
When the left figure out living off printed money has no future, maybe then we will have change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
The price of fuel and housing alone highlights Liberal failure of the people.
…….I just threw up in my mouth a bit !!…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Trudeau will be executed before there's another election. I'm praying it hasn't happened already and we get to watch it live in the coming months.
I'd get vaccinated to watch that live event! LOL Well maybe just one shotQuote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Canada is in troublehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b901b33d37.jpg
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In regards to housing, it’s a supply and demand issue. The big builders are not interested in flooding the market with a ton of inventory because it will dilute the market. Not sure any government can fix this.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Fuel is tricky. If we get rid of the price gouging carbon tax, how do we maintain our global commitments to lowering greenhouse emissions? How can we rely heavily on fossil fuels and prevent worsening climate change? I’m sure Albertans are stewing over this, but what’s the best direction to go?
Sadly Trudeau will most likely get elected. Everyone or most on CERB will vote for Trudeau. They don't understand they will pay for this in Taxes. Your not going to bite the hand that feeds you. The right is also very split. Only the Conservatives have a slight chance of beating the Liberals but because we are so split chances are that vote will be split between many different groups. Since the Greens and the NDP are falling apart their votes will go to the Liberals.
Were screwed as gun owners.
They won’t figure it out until they’ve dragged the rest of us down with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
There’s no fixing this mess until it all falls apart.
No you wouldn't lol, but I bet we could go through a bag of popcorn!Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
Bingo, those who support budgets that balances themselves with printed money should feel proud to tell their children and grandchildren daddy helped destroy your futuresQuote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
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Sad thing is no matter how intelligent, sensible or truthful any of our thoughts are on the matter, it's all just a microscopic drop in the ocean. The liberals turned their back on the working class patriots in favour of woke identity politics and endless pandering to the latest manufactured grievance of the day. Remember how much Harper was criticized for daring to utter the phrase "old stock Canadians"?
The spine of this country has been abandoned years ago. 4th+ generation Canadians who've been paying taxes here for eons and who've fought for the country are discarded for being too inconvenient.
Mass immigration is the big issue that has turned the tide. And no one is willing to talk about it.
The libs have been running on snobby urban elites and 3rd world immigrants for years. So the solution is to radically alter the fabric of the country -- import millions from the 3rd world, and stuff them all into the major cities in order to have dedicated voters for life.
How very true. I'm sure one of his campaign slogans he tells his supporters behind close doors is " Together we can turn Canada into the sh_thole that you imagrated from"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
That’s one of the most accurate descriptions of Canadian politics I’ve heard in a while. Especially the line about things that no one dares talk about. There is a faint glimmer of hope in the sense that there are many many people who echo these sentiments out in rural areas and thee have to be some in the suburbs too, another 4 years of leftist pandering garbage from Turdeau might be enough to swing some GTA ridings like Harper did. It won’t be enough to change the trajectory that Canada has found herself in though and the Wexit movement will gain more strength in the next decade. More power to them I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
I'm not sure I follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
(1) I said, Liberal voters vote for Liberals because of the free hand outs. I did not say Conservatives do not make use of the perfectly legal mechanisms provided by government. Two different things altogether. If your point is that Conservatives take the cash, and still vote Conservatives ... and you think that is hypocritical ... let's look at two situations .... (a) a Conservative looses income due to COVID ... and they should not?? take CERB?? (b) who's going to pay this all back?? WE ARE. So you're saying rather all the CERB money go to Liberal voters, but ... Conservatives no, no ... you don't touch, because you're a hypocrite then .... BUT! We'll be coming after you in taxes (and inflation) when it's time to pay! How is that fair??
(2) Paying cash to buy votes isn't just about CERB. It's also about government sponsored refugees that make $60k a year for doing nothing ... and have very little ambition to get a job or get educated to get a job. Government studies have been done that confirm employment rates for government sponsored refugees is TERRIBLE when compared to individual sponsored refugees/immigrants, after one to two years. Individual sponsored immigrants get to work, and contribute! And no, this is not about helping refugees ... it's about natural human behavior ... pay them tonnes of money, they have no incentive to work.
(3) Yes, I agree O'Toole just doesn't have a good perspective, a solid plan, and one that is in tune with the majority of Canadians. The big issue is that the Conservative platform works when there is long term application of fundamentals .... cut red tape, attract business, increase true employment, more corporate revenue and income, more tax revenue ... but less % tax to individuals, so more disposable income, etc. The Liberals have put us in so much debt, that it will take forever for us to fix it. And cost of living is just getting worse for everyone ... you basically need a 15% to 20% income tax CUT for things to work out nowadays .... it's impossible to do, without everything collapsing ... so now, Conservatives will try and do the right thing ... but it's basically too late to save the country ... so in my mind ... it's inevitable ... people will go for the free money option, and everything will collapse at some point.
I would be in favour of raising the voting age. That might help weed out a lot of teenage babysitters who voted for Trudeau because "he has nice hair", and lots of other teenagers who just want free stuff without having to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
It's incredible how much my worldview and politics have changed for the better after say, the age of 28. Not suggesting we keep people from voting until then just illustrating a point about maturity and having skin in the game (wife, kids, property, small business, paying higher taxes, etc.)
Reminds me of the old quote: "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at thirty, you have no brain."
My sister, at 63, admitted she voted for Trudeau because he had nice hair...I kid you not. That was common with women thru all ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
Almost makes me wonder if we should reconsider having given them the right to vote... HaHa... (relax just a joke )
Honestly, I hope your sister looks back at that, and realizes how ridiculous that sounds (and is).Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I guess it makes me a heartless smart Conservative...CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
Keep of that Conservative Kool Aid....Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Did you watch the Olympics' and did you not see the beautiful mosaic of Canadians who won our medals and made us proud?
You will have to get out from that stone you have been hiding under and see the real world, your world appears to be dark and full of hatred.
ROFL! Many truths have been spoken in jest. :moose:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Same here, the lies, the big government etc. and pseudo communist b.s. of the Liberal's turned me off, that quote was from Churchill, it is very dated. Look at the behaviour of the current government, the political correctness etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
"if you're not a conservative and you care for something other than yourself you have no brain." is what I would say given the current environment.
A Koolaid, vitamin C, some nutrition... "something mothers can be proud of"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://www.koolaid.com/
so unlike the Liberal water.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/lib...r-for-humanity
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Ah... the real world, with budgets, ethics, RCMP, so unlike the magic budgets, ethics violations and blocked investigations of the Liberal "world"
At least some kids are still being raised with ethics
Attachment 42102
I don't want the Conservatives to inherit the complete disaster that is being left by the Liberals. Canadians deserve everything they've earned which isn't readily visible to them......yet. I want them to learn the hard way...the VERY hard way that there's no such thing as free lunch,that freedom is NOT free,that civil rights DO matter. They need to see unemployment at 20%,inflation at 60%,bankruptcy and homelessness on a grand scale with Canada being declared a "failed state" with their great "socialism/communism" utopia being taken over by other countries whos only interest is raping this country for what natural resources haven't already been destroyed by The Liberal Party of Canada like the Chinese intend to do with Afghanistan. Then,and only then,will Canadians start to smarten TF up. Tough love,baby. Get some.
You don't sound very patriotic, brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
He’s right. I don’t like to hear it but he’s right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Patriotism has nothing to do with it. Canadians need a wake-up call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
IF it goes the way it is I could see within the 2030 time frame the situation going downhill so fast that the "you can vote socialism in but have to fight to get it out" may come true or the embarrassing of a Chinese style one party election by Canadians. Looking at some of the Liberal actions on censorship, media bribes it makes you wonder perhaps the motivation that the OIC was created and why they invoked the secrecy act to not disclose why they wanted it. To paraphrase another far fetched but worry some saying when a politician wants to ban guns it is usually because they want to do something they might get shot for doing. I find both sayings troubling in the light of having read enough history that there seems to be some thread of truth to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The mess is probably irreparable in the generation living but better to try and fail than to succeed in the complete destruction.
There is a way out of this-just the new Government would need to have balls, and goals to get the country out from this.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
We have seen the goals of the current Government,and they are anything but (to get us be better ,or more stable or richer)Their goal goes along the Globalism and being re elected.Not much worry for the Country as an independent and sovereign nation.
Unfortunately-if we look at Ontario,the Conservatives are not much different,and on Federal level?they are so accomodating with picking their steps,that it is impossible to figure out waht they stand for.
We need someone as Harper was(as far as Goals-Statesmanship and Leadership)to get us out from this mess.
None in sight.........
We need 'Dad'..not cool Uncle Bob... :)
Maybe Justin better reconsider dropping the writ Sunday.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/reco...tory-1.5546747
Attachment 42103
Decisions like making vaccines mandatory for the 20% of the population that chose not to get them will hurt his numbers. ..and that announcement came out AFTER those numbers (above).
Then again, it's really about the GTA..there are 121 seats in Ontario, 30 are in the 905 area code, all Liberal. Hopefully, the NDP can crab a few more there and diminish their hold.
Who are you responding to, exactly? Anyone in this thread with a conservative tilt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
You did not address any points or make any arguments...just ad hominems. It's a dishonest framing and sets the wrong tone for a productive discussion.
"Oh you're conservative huh? So on a scale of 1-10 how much do you hate black people?" Typical lefty tactics to demonize their opponents.
The discussion has nothing to do with hatred. Immigration is not about race, but rather cultures and values...which, despite the rose coloured glasses that most liberals wear, are not all equal.
Leaders who can't address this issue are cowardly and should not occupy those positions.
I suggest you take your own advice re "seeing the real world" and work on mending your tenuous connection to reality.
He is a meathead...
Trudeau promises $10/day child care
O’Toole is talking about a GST-free month of December.
Bribing us with our own money again. Where have all the adults gone ?
The kids see thru it too Haha..Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
https://i.imgur.com/56gaEFJm.jpg
Not one reporter asked how much that will cost taxpayers; paying to babysit other peoples kids. Used to be we took care of that ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
At least Que admitted that it has more to do with having both parents back to work to file taxes annually.
Welcome to the perks of Socialism....free babysitting in exchange for ballooning debt that they will have to pay for someday Haha..
Drives me absolutely nuts. If you can’t afford to raise your kids maybe you shouldn’t have themQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
But instead I should chip in to babysit someone else’s kids
Yep! That's right up there with rebates and grants given to e-vehicle (Tesla buyers @ $125K) from taxpayer's funds who are lucky to be holding down a job and keeping food on the table and don't have a hope in he** of paying for any car let alone a $125K pie-in-the-sky greenie pipe dream. This brand of liberalism is absolutely obscene..Quote:
Originally Posted by FishHog
Yup...my sister bought a Chevy 'Bolt' I believe..and she was quite honest, if Kathleen Wynne hadn't kicked in the $13K 'incentive', she wouldn't have bought it. Nice eh!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Justin's already answered the questions, "the government will pay for it, so you don't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Sadly there's millions of morons who lap up Trudeaus verbal diarrhea..
Plus she gets to ride in the HOV lanes for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I just found out that the federal rebate program is over as of Aug31. HUH!! Must be an election coming.LOL
They extended it..because of the election Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Has the CRB been extended?
Extending the Canada Recovery Benefit (CRB), the Canada Recovery Caregiving Benefit (CRCB), and the Canada Recovery Sickness Benefit (CRSB) until October 23, 2021.
This election is pegged at 610 mil you guys crying about lil cerb payment pffft
Great news from Nova Scotia. Lib out con in.
Toss the turd. I don’t care what it costs.
Go Nova Scotia-There is hopeQuote:
Originally Posted by glen
Not challenging any of the above-but all in all,this great country could and should a LONG time ago have free Child care.
If for nothing else-to follow all those poorer countries,they DO have it.
Then-free eye care,free dental care and free medical plan.(they could do some "balancing"in al of this-but there is not even an intention to do any of it)
It would not even take a whole lot of effort.I think all the hard working Canadians would greatly appreciate and NEED all that.
I would call that-taking care of our own people!
Socialism in this country is elsewhere-all the free dole,the aids that make people lazy, the-we reach out to the needy ones "over and above"(the ones they are needy because they are thought that being needy replaces the need to work)the endless relief benefits for "whatever"reason, the privileged many(they happened to work thru unionized jobs)the Governement jobs which pay twice the wages for half the work of the employees working elsewhere-all these ARE "socialisms".
To a degree.
Sure….but that only works if everyone CONTRIBUTES. We are quickly moving toward a society where only a fraction are contributing and too many are being provided for with government-borrowed money.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
That's not the program I mean. There is/was a federal rebate program specifically for the purchase of "green" vehicles that wasn't advertised except through e-vehicle dealers. Main stream media deliberately "sat" on the "sleeper" program because the government knew full well that it would really wrankle voters. It's been in place since the Liberals were first elected. If the Cons were smart,they'd exploit this scandal to the fullest.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
So true.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
It's the leftists Utopia were living in. Vote wisely
There....Happy?....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
https://i.imgur.com/EDtFfLT.jpg
I'm hearing Trudeau if he thinks he's loosing will be offering a Guaranteed income for life.
Crap none of my cars or truck are green
Well, they aren't exactly wizards when it comes to voting lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
You might find this funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ducNreliCS4
No big deal should only be about 2 or 3 years for 70% of the population.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I don't think these guys voted for Biden.
https://www.rebelnews.com/volunteer_...Qx34NzieVL2z2o
Guys, I'm starting to get an impression that there's a VERY good possibility Turdeau may only get a minority, and there's hope he might lose too!
If this momentum keeps up, the Liberal Majority Dream is out of the question.
He'll be lucky to get a minority, Conservatives have abandoned O' Toole just like he abandoned them. There will be a lot of Conservative lawn signs replaced with PPC in my neck of the woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
I don’t understand your post Willie. If you think the Conservatives are going to lose badly that likely means a majority for PM Dipshyte…Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
I think most on here will agree with your statement
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Originally Posted by 73hunter
A vote for PPC, unfortunately, is a vote for the village idiot !!Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Rick, I'm not going to hold my breath expecting the Conservatives to win.
I still expect Trudeau will win at minimum a minority and the NDP will still be able to support him.
Yes O'tool has raised his percent but we are still 21 days out before the election and a lot can go wrong between then and now.
Violent Conservative protesters don't help and will quite likely turn a way the Liberal / Conservative swing votes. Without them the Conservatives cannot win
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Originally Posted by rick_iles
My Conservative Sign should be on my lawn this week for Pierre Poilievre
Sorry, I should've clarified Turdeau.Attachment 42177Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Mine went up a week ago…..here’s hoping !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I heard Biden has more mail in votes then Trudeau or O’toole
Saving the puppy mills is cute an all but what part of "show me your papers" eludes you guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
"hard right conservatives" have abandoned O'toole - but he's picking up the middle of the road votes - which he needs more than the hard right if he wants to form a government.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
I am completely puzzled by the mindset of the group of conservatives who would rather rally behind a leader who is too far right to win an election, than support a more centrist leader who can take the middle and form a majority government. If you can't win the middle - you've got nothing. And before you label me a red tory - I'm a bluer conservative than most - church going, social conservative, fiscal conservative, small government conservative, lets not screw over Alberta and rural people conservative. But I'm not stupid either. Only Trudeau and the liberals come out ahead when you ignore the middle voters.
^^^Dat be True ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Excellent post and should be heeded before we screw this election up too...
couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
I just don't get the thought process that makes one believe splitting the conservative vote to a useless fringe party is going to help in anyway. I swear the libs are putting PPC signs in their lawn as they know how much it truly helps their cause.
There is a certain selfish mindset that would rather see the Liberals win as long as they can retain their ideological purity. It's the same reason there are members of the Communist Party of Canada who would never vote NDP even in ridings where they are competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Well said! Too far right and too far behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche