Railway shutdown - Letter to PM

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February 16, 2020

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Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A2


Dear Prime Minister Trudeau,


I do not envy your job and the diverse and often competing priorities you must face on a daily basis. But as the Canada-wide shutdown of rail services drags on, it is time for you to step up and get serious about your domestic responsibilities.

No one is asking you to intervene in police operational matters. For you to publicly imply so is a cop-out and an abdication of your leadership role. No one is asking you to deny anyone’s right to protest. But when such protests endanger public safety and our national economy, action is required to ensure that the rule of law is maintained for all Canadians.

Mr. Trudeau, the current situation is one of your own making. Years of eloquently spoken but ultimately empty moral platitudes have done nothing but raise unrealistic expectations in your efforts to please everyone. You now find yourself in a perfect storm where everyone (First Nations, environmentalists, industry and regular working Canadians) are simultaneously demanding that you follow through on your promises to them. However, you are currently abroad attending lavish functions and rubbing elbows with dictators in pursuit of an expensive shiny prize that no one outside of the political chattering classes cares about.

Mr. Trudeau, it is time to get up from the edge of your luxury hotel-suite bed, get your head out of your hands and get back to Canada to do your job.

Sincerely,
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Barrie, Ontario, CANADA


c.c.: Doug Shipley, MP Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte, [email protected]

Hope you put extra postage on the letter because it's going to have to chase him from Africa to Europe and wherever else he is on perpetual holiday.

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Originally Posted by ninepointer

[FONT="] But when such protests endanger public safety and our national economy, action is required to ensure that the rule of law is maintained for all Canadians.

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If this nonsense continues much longer, I predict it's going to get violent. If that's what it takes, then so be it. The authorities are going to have to do something soon!

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

If this nonsense continues much longer, I predict it's going to get violent. If that's what it takes, then so be it. The authorities are going to have to do something soon!

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The feds will tiptoe their way around it without making any actual decisions. Don't kid yourself, Trudeau would be happy with a swift, violent outcome so he can point his finger elsewhere, say he had nothing to do with it and blame someone else.




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What did Mulroney do during Oka, ..... nothing :scream:.....so.....?

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

What did Mulroney do during Oka, ..... nothing :scream:.....so.....?

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Oka did'nt hold the entire countries economic well being hostage. Big difference, I'm sure even you can see?

Mulroney did not step in while the natives held the rail line hostage, for 78 days. 78 days!!! Can't you see the similarities?

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Mulroney did not step in while the natives held the rail line hostage, for 78 days. 78 days!!! Can't you see the similarities?

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What does Mulroney have to do with any of this? Might as well bring up Custers last stand too.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

What does Mulroney have to do with any of this? Might as well bring up Custers last stand too.

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He gets real butt hurt if anyone say's bad things about silly socks.

Some people were talking about the in-action of Trudeau, I was pointing out there is precedent, that was set by a previous P. M.( Mulroney). Would you rather an Ipperwash intervention? Like when then Ontario Premier Mike Harris said, 'I want the ----ing Indians out of the park'..? The next day Dudley George was shot dead by an OPP officer. RIP.

You hit it on the nail.....ninepointer.
This nonsense has to stop.

Pretty easy solution, cut off all subsidies until they pull the plug on the blockades....

I agree, try non violent solutions first.

Just a couple of questions I'd like answered. When did treaty lands become "sovereign" FN land? The last I looked,that "sovereign" land was still within Canada making the occupiers of the land Canadian citizens subject to the same laws as everyone else. Since when did Police services need "orders" from the federal government to enforce the law? Isn't that their mandate? Why are they NOT doing their jobs? That's dereliction of duty and they should all be charged under Police Services Acts. If it was any other citizen,they would have been arrested and jailed in a heartbeat. This is ridiculous where the tail wags the dog and gets away with it. Tough love is way overdue with this issue.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That's dereliction of duty and they should all be charged under Police Services Acts. If it was any other citizen,they would have been arrested and jailed in a heartbeat. This is ridiculous where the tail wags the dog and gets away with it. Tough love is way overdue with this issue.

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You are absolutely correct! There lots of people out there that would take over the positions of the cops that are refusing to do their job.

We all know there are different laws for different backgrounds in Canada. Take Fishermccanns post about Dudley George for instance. Dudley George was breaking the law and died, he gets an RIP but in fishers post about Oka there was no mention of RIP for Marcel Lemay, a cop who was gunned down during the standoff.

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[emoji1787][emoji1787] the one guy says they will down Canada. How about the government shutdown down the reserve's [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106].

Then see who's laughing [emoji23][emoji54]

Who is going to pay for the busted up rd in front of our local smoke shop. Probably not them [emoji2958][emoji107][emoji848].

https://youtu.be/4QlXEoMPNcw

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So your condoning inaction? Aka Caledonia?

Past PMs have jack squat to do with this. This isn’t a cause and effect type debate. It’s about today, it’s about two sets of rules. It’s about the huge impact on the economy, about JT ignoring the west. It’s about JT being to busy trying to a stupid seat, instead of taking care of Canada.

It’s about people that can’t afford getting screwed yet again, not everyone works in ps. It’s about a pm who has spewed platitudes trying to please everyone and now can’t function.....without pissing off one of his vote bases, be they eco terrorist, FNs, or progressives in the gta, who rarely if ever have to deal without the fallout of their choices

It’s not about Mulroney, that’s for damn sure.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

You are absolutely correct! There lots of people out there that would take over the positions of the cops that are refusing to do their job.

We all know there are different laws for different backgrounds in Canada. Take Fishermccanns post about Dudley George for instance. Dudley George was breaking the law and died, he gets an RIP but in fishers post about Oka there was no mention of RIP for Marcel Lemay, a cop who was gunned down during the standoff.

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Marcel Lemay was in a gunfight. Dudley George was carrying a stick. The only reason I mentioned Mulroney was that some where saying why doesn't our Prime Minister do something ( head in the sand etc.). I was pointing out that Mulroney did nothing for 78 days. Is that okay then because he was a conservative and it is not okay now because we have a Liberal government? Or are you saying all governments have bungled the native file? Seems to me you are laying the problems at the Liberal governments feet.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Marcel Lemay was in a gunfight. Dudley George was carrying a stick. The only reason I mentioned Mulroney was that some where saying why doesn't our Prime Minister do something ( head in the sand etc.). I was pointing out that Mulroney did nothing for 78 days. Is that okay then because he was a conservative and it is not okay now because we have a Liberal government? Or are you saying all governments have bungled the native file? Seems to me you are laying the problems at the Liberal governments feet.

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Alot has changed in the past 28 years since he was PM.

What was good then is horrible or wrong today.

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Pointing out that it is not a Liberal problem, as some on here are making out. Many Conservative governments have had a chance to fix it and have failed, just as the Liberals have.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Pointing out that it is not a Liberal problem, as some on here are making out. Many Conservative governments have had a chance to fix it and have failed, just as the Liberals have.

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Conservative or liberal doesn't matter when things were completely different back then.

The times are changing especially in the past decade.
What really needs to change is the way the indigenous are treated. They have their own laws that are different from our Canadian laws. They live in Canada they should follow the same laws as Canadians not just do what they want to do.

If I blocked a train for any reason see how fast my white a$s would be locked up or taken away. Doesn't matter what the cause is.

What was good in the 80s and 90s is irrelevant in today's world. Back then a smack on the behind was acceptable today you can't even cut your child's hair without consent. If you do and a teacher finds out you will have a visit from the children's aid service's.


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Maybe all the immigrants can make their own laws in Canada. They have their beliefs on what they believe in heck with our Canadian laws what's good for them is good for me right .

If I set up an illegal market beside a native shop it should be ok . I am Canadian they are Canadian what's the difference? Why are they treated better than I from the government?. Why cant I do what they do?.

Why do I pay for a limited license to fish and catch a few fish just so they just keep what they want .

Totally bs

We have a lake shut down to walleye because the numbers are way down. But they can go rape it so the numbers will never recover even if they could .

We are Canadians too. I was born here
My father was born here, His father was born here and his father was also born here . We are Canadians just as they are.

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I believe in the right to protest. I believe in the rule of law. I am of belief that to hold a country hostage by blockade is tantamount to an act of war or at the very least treason. I am also under the belief that P.E.T. is rolling over in his grave right now and he is not muttering Fuddle Duddle either.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Pointing out that it is not a Liberal problem, as some on here are making out. Many Conservative governments have had a chance to fix it and have failed, just as the Liberals have.

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Fix what?

Explain how this is not a Liberal problem.........

Is it not 2020?
Are they not the governing party?
Are they (he) not the party that’s all but invited this kind of trouble vis a vie their environment policies?

Or do I not live on earth in the present day!

its also worth noting that a good percentage of the blockades are NOT!!!!!! FNs. Rather they are white eco warriors.

so again, don’t make this out to be all about FNs. Fact of the matter is, FNs democratically approved it. They aren’t the ones blocking trains

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Pointing out that it is not a Liberal problem, as some on here are making out. Many Conservative governments have had a chance to fix it and have failed, just as the Liberals have.

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Turd boy the liberal pm spent 4 .4 billion on the project.
Maybe they should of figured this before they signed the deal [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107].

It was our current liberal government who made this pipeline happen now they are trespassing on Canadian Indian lands. Jokes on them lol. Maybe they can sell it to the neighbouring homes [emoji1787][emoji54][emoji573][emoji95]

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It's nothing more than another money grab on their part. The squeaky wheel gets the grease or a casino... Other than that some people got to get a life... And the OPP say it's "not my job man" to do anything regarding the border crossing blockades along with the rail lines... Pathetic...

And then the village idiot says the FN are the most important thing to him. I guess the rest are second class.

"get your head out of your hands" ... I think you meant getting his head out of something else. LOL. Too polite.

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It's nothing more than another money grab on their part. The squeaky wheel gets the grease or a casino... Other than that some people got to get a life... And the OPP say it's "not my job man" to do anything regarding the border crossing blockades along with the rail lines... Pathetic...

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I can understand OPP not wanting to take any action. The police have no support from either level of government. If they do attempt to enforce an injunction and the crap hits the fan, which it would, they would be the government’s scapegoat. The officers themselves would be thrown under the bus by their superiors and governments.
It’s a lose lose proposition for police. Ipperwash was a prime example....

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

I can understand OPP not wanting to take any action. The police have no support from either level of government. If they do attempt to enforce an injunction and the crap hits the fan, which it would, they would be the government’s scapegoat. The officers themselves would be thrown under the bus by their superiors and governments.
It’s a lose lose proposition for police. Ipperwash was a prime example....

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So why bother having a police force to uphold the law? They are illegal, so why are the police not required to act on this?

Not saying they have any chance to win, but is it not their job?

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Originally Posted by Fox

So why bother having a police force to uphold the law? They are illegal, so why are the police not required to act on this?

Not saying they have any chance to win, but is it not their job?

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When the government will not enforce the rule of law, and do not back the police, why would the police? No different than COs not enforcing offences by natives.
they are no doubt getting their orders from superiors...whether from within the organization or from governments.

Are police not under any kind of oath to enforce federal laws when there being broken?

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

When the government will not enforce the rule of law, and do not back the police, why would the police? No different than COs not enforcing offences by natives.
they are no doubt getting their orders from superiors...whether from within the organization or from governments.

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Just playing the other side, if they are not enforcing the law then why do we have them? Maybe they should only be paid based on the percentage that then enforce.

I do not disagree with you, it looks a hell of a lot better on the OPP not doing anything than rounding up natives and locking them up, but they could also just hand out the judicial ruling and blame the Liberals too for the enforcement, make them look worse than they already do.

There is no easy way out of this thing.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Are police not under any kind of oath to enforce federal laws when there being broken?

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Not when those that make the laws tell them to stand down.....
There’s an old adage, Discretion is the better part of valour. If enforcing a “law” will result in injuries or worse, to both police and the public/protesters, the prudent course of action is to back off and let the powers that be, in this case politicians, sort it out !
Again, it’s a lose lose situation for police.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Are police not under any kind of oath to enforce federal laws when there being broken?

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I thought so too until there was a report of a person telling an officer ,people were drinking in the parking lot up the road. Including the driver open beers on new year's. The cop ignored the man and told him to call 911 if he was concerned lol

I would of looked and said 911, it's right there at the back of your car. [emoji26][emoji107]


I would of told that cop where to go lol. I already wale my horn when they dont use their turn signals when in front of me[emoji1787][emoji106]beep beep lol.

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Not when those that make the laws tell them to stand down.....
There’s an old adage, Discretion is the better part of valour. If enforcing a “law” will result in injuries or worse, to both police and the public/protesters, the prudent course of action is to back off and let the powers that be, in this case politicians, sort it out !
Again, it’s a lose lose situation for police.

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But....
1) The powers that be are incompetent
2) The powers that be there now usually side with the criminal/terrorist and seem to hate the victim
3) When questioned about it today his first response was to site Harper....
but wasn't it the Conservatives that started the reconciliation commission.... and made the chiefs and councils accountable and disclose spending...
4) the Liberal us vs them will screw up the economy, investment and result in huge economic problems before they are done... likely to be used to throw money at the radials and ignoring those the groups that signed off
5) intimidation by radicals and the law abiding ignore.... usual Liberals
6) ignoring foreign funding and completely idiotic socialist/communists seems to be on par for them too.

Well when the food/clean water become an issue in the cities etc. we will see how badly they will bungle it.... hey Justlied can be like daddy again (either one...your pick.) send in the military and impose martial law. Not enforcing the law is usual for Libs and the police are smart to just do as absolutely told in this case.... they are damned if they do or don't.

It is the 21st century.... they should throw out the stupid race based sh**!

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Not when those that make the laws tell them to stand down.....
There’s an old adage, Discretion is the better part of valour. If enforcing a “law” will result in injuries or worse, to both police and the public/protesters, the prudent course of action is to back off and let the powers that be, in this case politicians, sort it out !
Again, it’s a lose lose situation for police.

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I guess but it's pretty damn sad that a group of people who dont even pay taxes have more rights than the tax payers

Another "bin there,dun that",but, from first hand experience,the average citizen has no idea the extent of political interference in the justice system that exists in the case of First Nation offenders. Political correctness rules the day and shyte really does roll down hill....in great big stinkin' brown turds,too. I hope First Nations shuts this country and it's useless disfunctional,fckued up government down until there's no more groceries in the stores,no gas for vehicles and the lefties are freezing to death in the dark. Maybe,then,they'll get their heads out of their a**es and smarten up.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Another "bin there,dun that",but, from first hand experience,the average citizen has no idea the extent of political interference in the justice system that exists in the case of First Nation offenders. Political correctness rules the day and shyte really does roll down hill....in great big stinkin' brown turds,too. I hope First Nations shuts this country and it's useless disfunctional,fckued up government down until there's no more groceries in the stores,no gas for vehicles and the lefties are freezing to death in the dark. Maybe,then,they'll get their heads out of their a**es and smarten up.

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They truly are “the tail wagging the dog”.....it’s been that way for years, and nothing will change under our village idiot’s watch.
If the information that most of the so-called natives are just white eco terrorist is true, that should cause more concern. Why are they allowed to hijack this issue for their own agendas ?

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Originally Posted by Fox

Just playing the other side, if they are not enforcing the law then why do we have them? Maybe they should only be paid based on the percentage that then enforce.

I do not disagree with you, it looks a hell of a lot better on the OPP not doing anything than rounding up natives and locking them up, but they could also just hand out the judicial ruling and blame the Liberals too for the enforcement, make them look worse than they already do.

There is no easy way out of this thing.

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The OPP likely learned a lot about government support from the Ipperwash incident.
They were pretty much hung out to dry ! Ken Dean was made a scapegoat, and paid the price. The inquiry that lasted three years, pretty much put the blame on the police. They refused to accept the evidence from the officers there. I had friends that were there. One said he heard automatic weapons fire every night for weeks before it blew up. But, that evidence was discounted....
You wonder why police are reluctant to take action?? Look no further than Ipperwash !

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I hope First Nations shuts this country and it's useless disfunctional,fckued up government down until there's no more groceries in the stores,no gas for vehicles and the lefties are freezing to death in the dark. Maybe,then,they'll get their heads out of their a**es and smarten up.

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Haha that would be awesome [emoji1787]

But the illegal smokes and dope would still have fully loaded shelves [emoji948][emoji302]

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“One Canada” what a friggin joke. At the end of the day it don’t matter the party, not one of them will touch this with a ten foot pole.....
One common sense chief (name?) today said they have a right to set up blockades but they also have a right to compassion for all citizens of Canada. It’s time to remove barricades.
Don’t matter, IMO Trudeau is useless......

You can't bite the hands that feed you for long cause eventually it'll come back and bite you in the a_ _

450 people are laid off from work until the protest ends.

The effects are starting to kick in.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada...work-1.4817542

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For the "hope they freeze/Starve " crowd.

Food and gasoline are not going to be effected by the rail blockages.

99% of food( you know the stuff going to the store) goes by truck. The other 1% is bulk grains, and overseas export stuff.

Gasoline and diesel goes from the refinery to the bulk storage or gas station. Only the crude oil is on the rails.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The OPP likely learned a lot about government support from the Ipperwash incident.
They were pretty much hung out to dry ! Ken Dean was made a scapegoat, and paid the price. The inquiry that lasted three years, pretty much put the blame on the police. They refused to accept the evidence from the officers there. I had friends that were there. One said he heard automatic weapons fire every night for weeks before it blew up. But, that evidence was discounted....
You wonder why police are reluctant to take action?? Look no further than Ipperwash !

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Well we know at OKA they had AK-47s
https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn...ricade_during/

and looking at the murders in Canada there have been atleast 2 with automatic firearms each year.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=3510007201

The police would be justified to take action BUT wisdom shows in that they want orders from the government first! Remember the current gov't is the vets ask too much, pay terrorists though and interfere with police investigations etc. who in their right mind would trust their word.... wait for orders is the right choice for them!

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The OPP likely learned a lot about government support from the Ipperwash incident.
They were pretty much hung out to dry ! Ken Dean was made a scapegoat, and paid the price. The inquiry that lasted three years, pretty much put the blame on the police. They refused to accept the evidence from the officers there. I had friends that were there. One said he heard automatic weapons fire every night for weeks before it blew up. But, that evidence was discounted....
You wonder why police are reluctant to take action?? Look no further than Ipperwash !

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Oh I know, but it is hard to say what the police are good for then. Are they only good for going after those who are not criminals? That and traffic stops?

It sounds like a joke but it feels more like reality, the courts say it is illegal but if they do anything they will be condemed so they sit back, what use are the courts then.

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Oh I know, but it is hard to say what the police are good for then. Are they only good for going after those who are not criminals? That and traffic stops?

It sounds like a joke but it feels more like reality, the courts say it is illegal but if they do anything they will be condemed so they sit back, what use are the courts then.

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Just look at the media and the politicians....we have the Green party saying civil disobedience is good and justified etc. No the police are justified in not taking actions that could put their lives in danger (or their careers etc.).... atleast until the politicians order it.... the right thing and the wise thing unfortunately don't work here with the Libs in power!

Our fake PM has broke ethics rules 3 times now, the law atleast twice and the Charter of rights and freedoms looks like Swiss cheese.... the laws and courts should be blind to privilege race and sex but Justlied "Quebecers are better"/Chinese dictatorship Trudeau and the Libs are in power.... make them give the orders clear and openly is the only wise choice for them in this position.

I wonder if they put the firearms bans into effect what they would say about civil disobedience in that case though... .... ... makes you wonder...are laws only for when it is convenient for politicians but when they want to breaking the law is good?

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Honestly, I really think they want it to get violent. Suits their agenda better.

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rather than a new post .... Yep
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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

If this nonsense continues much longer, I predict it's going to get violent. If that's what it takes, then so be it. The authorities are going to have to do something soon!

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Honestly, I really think they want it to get violent. Suits their agenda better.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Honestly, I really think they want it to get violent. Suits their agenda better.

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It would certainly give the govt an out? Silly socks is on record saying they can't tell the police what to do, so pity the poor commander who gives the go ahead. It will give the libtards an out saying they had nothing to do with it.
As Rick says, think back to Ipperwash! The police aren't going to fart in the wrong direction for fear of being dragged thru the mud.

Report out today that CN is laying off 450 as a result.

Propane isn’t being delivered. It’s winter. Farmers out west can’t move crop. This on the heels of a wet fall, and CN strike. Just another kick in the nuts for westerners.

I’m sure many more are feeling it.

False equivalency seems to be the progressive rebuttal. “But Harper”, but Harris. Etc...

I am not remotely a fan of Ford or Trump. But like the Alberta “separation” situation. The left in this country/province needs serious doses of reality. Given “everything” on the whole, and taken within context of all the various things.

I’d vote for Trump in a heartbeat

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Report out today that CN is laying off 450 as a result.

Propane isn’t being delivered. It’s winter. Farmers out west can’t move crop. This on the heels of a wet fall, and CN strike. Just another kick in the nuts for westerners.

I’m sure many more are feeling it.

False equivalency seems to be the progressive rebuttal. “But Harper”, but Harris. Etc...

I am not remotely a fan of Ford or Trump. But like the Alberta “separation” situation. The left in this country/province needs serious doses of reality. Given “everything” on the whole, and taken within context of all the various things.

I’d vote for Trump in a heartbeat

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Add to the western divide, Trudeau did not invite Sheer to discuss the blockades but invited all the other opposition. I don't think he realizes that he did not win the popular vote and that Sheer did.

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Originally Posted by Fox

Add to the western divide, Trudeau did not invite Sheer to discuss the blockades but invited all the other opposition. I don't think he realizes that he did not win the popular vote and that Sheer did.

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Scheer is already on record wanting to send in the RCMP, remove the problem and lay charges. Trudeau said that the RCMP does not listen to the Federal Leadership. Trudeau is going to go at this with his velvet glove touch and hand out Billions, having someone who cares about the country as a whole in the same room would be counterproductive.

I agree with giving them all a few years in the crow bar motel and hitting them dollar for dollar in fines for losses.

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I hear it will cost 600 million for every year the project is delayed.

This is a big delay and its costing millions already. Over a million dollars a day in losses.

Then you have the natural delays when does a project ever come out on time.

Took them an extra 6 weeks to get the new round about opened up on lakerigde rd. It's still not done just open for now.

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More fallout.

I wonder if this will spur the village idiots to act. Nothing like pissing off a key vote base.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/que...box=1582119190

"Sunny ways" Patience and dialogue will solve this, you remember like the budget will balance itself. If he doesn't soon take this seriously his dad won't be the only Trudeau to invoke the War Measures Act to regain some control.

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"Sunny ways" Patience and dialogue will solve this, you remember like the budget will balance itself. If he doesn't soon take this seriously his dad won't be the only Trudeau to invoke the War Measures Act to regain some control.

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The village idiot is incapable of running this country. He proves that every day! Liebral voters must be so proud!!!

Via is about to lay off up to 1000 people. I guess silly socks and his gang of idiots are still having meaningful dialogue?

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Via is about to lay off up to 1000 people. I guess silly socks and his gang of idiots are still having meaningful dialogue?

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That's alot of people to loose out of their job.

Nothing can really be done except toss out another billion dollar's to move the line over [emoji23].

Give it another week see what happens. Maybe they will pay them off with more of our tax dollars [emoji106]

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Canada and Canadians are loosing millions $$$$ a day until this is over .[emoji107]

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Originally Posted by Fox

Add to the western divide, Trudeau did not invite Sheer to discuss the blockades but invited all the other opposition. I don't think he realizes that he did not win the popular vote and that Sheer did.

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Yeah that really pissed me off. And I'm sure he hasn't made any friends in the West by acting like a high school idiot and shutting out Scheer from an important meeting ... it's pathetic ... you see TruDOPE can't put the Nation ahead of his EGO ...

I listened to Trudeau speak in the House of Commons yesterday. I'm now convinced that his speech writers simply Google "inspirational memes" then randomly string ten of them together. Seriously, try it and you'll get a Trudeau speech! :p

Scheer describe it well as "word salad", probably because "verbal diarrhea" might not be acceptable language in the House.

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I listened to Trudeau speak in the House of Commons yesterday. I'm now convinced that his speech writers simply Google "inspirational memes" then randomly string ten of them together. Seriously, try it and you'll get a Trudeau speech! [emoji14]

Scheer describe it well as "word salad", probably because "verbal diarrhea" might not be acceptable language in the House.

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That's one of the reasons I like trump no speech writer's, he will say what he wants to say. He just keeps on talking lol.

They would dare do that here they might offend people by saying the wrong words. [emoji1787][emoji23]

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That's one of the reasons I like trump no speech writer's, he will say what he wants to say. He just keeps on talking lol.

They would dare do that here they might offend people by saying the wrong words. [emoji1787][emoji23]

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The best part of a Trump speech is watching the libtards blowing gaskets every time because they take everything he says at face value, and can't tell when he is joking about something.

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The best part of a Trump speech is watching the libtards blowing gaskets every time because they take everything he says at face value, and can't tell when he is joking about something.

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They fall for it hook,line and sinker while he and his homies laugh themselves sick watching their heads explode on CNN. I've seen some of it and I gotta tell you,it's better than the comedy channel.

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji106]

https://youtu.be/9bL0ch2l9NI

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The only reason I mentioned Mulroney was that some where saying why doesn't our Prime Minister do something ( head in the sand etc.). I was pointing out that Mulroney did nothing for 78 days. Is that okay then because he was a conservative and it is not okay now because we have a Liberal government? Or are you saying all governments have bungled the native file? Seems to me you are laying the problems at the Liberal governments feet.

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No, the only reason you mentioned Mulroney was a feeble attempt at deflection. " There's someone worse than him!!".

Mulroney also didn't stand up in front of the nation with platitudes and crocodile tears about FN, and reconciliation. Only to deliver jack squat on the file.

Trudeau unfortunately has a credibility problem.

Wants reconciliation : Makes fun of FN protesters at Liberal Fundraiser in TO.

Wants the economy to grow, and the West to be able to sell its resources: Spends 4.5 Billion on a "pipeline" that isn't built.

Wants to be a feminist: Boots two female caucus members for speaking up, and has credible accusations levelled at him about past indiscretions.

Wants openness and transparency: SNC Lavalin....

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No, the only reason you mentioned Mulroney was a feeble attempt at deflection. " There's someone worse than him!!".

Mulroney also didn't stand up in front of the nation with platitudes and crocodile tears about FN, and reconciliation. Only to deliver jack squat on the file.

Trudeau unfortunately has a credibility problem.

Wants reconciliation : Makes fun of FN protesters at Liberal Fundraiser in TO.

Wants the economy to grow, and the West to be able to sell its resources: Spends 4.5 Billion on a "pipeline" that isn't built.

Wants to be a feminist: Boots two female caucus members for speaking up, and has credible accusations levelled at him about past indiscretions.

Wants openness and transparency: SNC Lavalin....

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Trudeau thought that the Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women would be seen as his "delivery" on reconciliation. He was wrong.
Harper was smart enough to know that such an inquiry would be a waste of money, it would not tell us anything we didn't already know. No smoking gun.

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[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji106]

https://youtu.be/9bL0ch2l9NI

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This is brilliant! Totally agree with him!

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No, the only reason you mentioned Mulroney was a feeble attempt at deflection. " There's someone worse than him!!".

Mulroney also didn't stand up in front of the nation with platitudes and crocodile tears about FN, and reconciliation. Only to deliver jack squat on the file.

Trudeau unfortunately has a credibility problem.

Wants reconciliation : Makes fun of FN protesters at Liberal Fundraiser in TO.

Wants the economy to grow, and the West to be able to sell its resources: Spends 4.5 Billion on a "pipeline" that isn't built.

Wants to be a feminist: Boots two female caucus members for speaking up, and has credible accusations levelled at him about past indiscretions.

Wants openness and transparency: SNC Lavalin....

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Wait, wait, wait ... he did do something right!

He wanted to become a drama teacher ... and he delivered the drama! He gets an A++++++ in that.

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No, the only reason you mentioned Mulroney was a feeble attempt at deflection. " There's someone worse than him!!".

Mulroney also didn't stand up in front of the nation with platitudes and crocodile tears about FN, and reconciliation. Only to deliver jack squat on the file.

Trudeau unfortunately has a credibility problem.

Wants reconciliation : Makes fun of FN protesters at Liberal Fundraiser in TO.

Wants the economy to grow, and the West to be able to sell its resources: Spends 4.5 Billion on a "pipeline" that isn't built.

Wants to be a feminist: Boots two female caucus members for speaking up, and has credible accusations levelled at him about past indiscretions.

Wants openness and transparency: SNC Lavalin....

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^^^^^THIS^^^^^

That Quick McDick video is hilarious! Haha that guy is great.

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Here is another video counter protesters tearing up the blockade.
Its funny I was saying to the wife this morning that we should go tear one down lol. [emoji1787].

Bill Blair has also said the rcmp have moved away from the original site from the protesters demand. See what happens I guess just glad to see others help tear them down. [emoji106]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...BVK?li=AAggXBV

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So now it's up to Joe public to enforce the orders of our courts! Good on the guys from Alberta for taking a stand against these illegal blockades but it'll end up in a violent confrontation and someone will get hurt or jailed doing what the police are paid to do.

In reading some of the news today I found myself in stitches. There was an article on how the PM can not force the police to act and he can not interfere or have anyone interfere with any investigations or court proceedings. I guess SNC was different.


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In reading some of the news today I found myself in stitches. There was an article on how the PM can not force the police to act and he can not interfere or have anyone interfere with any investigations or court proceedings. I guess SNC was different.


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Funny because didn't he do exactly that with Vice Admiral Norman..........

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...-against-vice/

Well, well, now how was I to know. Mr. Trudeau is now asking the government for 2.1 billion dollars for native programs. Once again the squeaky wheel gets the grease.... Coward....

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Well, well, now how was I to know. Mr. Trudeau is now asking the government for 2.1 billion dollars for native programs. Once again the squeaky wheel gets the grease.... Coward....

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"The budget will balance itself."

SD are you suggesting JT says one thing and does another? Changes his tune more often than he changes his underwear?

Who can forget this?
https://globalnews.ca/video/5019188/...-canadian-jobs

Apparently not.

..... Justlied Trudeau ..... didn't tell the truth.... LIbEralS won't believe you..... of course the reality is like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

.... poof and $100,000,000,000 in LIEbral "truth" gets flushed and taxpayers will have to pay.


I mean if you just channel that good old National Socialist idea on "truth" ...
https://twitter.com/_patrioticdad/st...031872?lang=en

and you don't have people who will tell or check if it is true....

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..... Justlied Trudeau ..... didn't tell the truth.... LIbEralS won't believe you..... of course the reality is like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

.... poof and $100,000,000,000 in LIEbral "truth" gets flushed and taxpayers will have to pay.


I mean if you just channel that good old National Socialist idea on "truth" ...
https://twitter.com/_patrioticdad/st...031872?lang=en

and you don't have people who will tell or check if it is true....

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The part about the Lyin’ King telling the truth, made me barf a bit !!!

Why should we keep handing them everything for nothing?. How many 100s of millions are they making in the cannabis industry? What about the all the tobacco shops? Tens of thousands of dollars are being picked up by these stores on a daily basis. They have their own cannabis grow facilities that will be again sold tax free in their stores??.

The store here I have tried counting a few times. But they makeing thousands of dollars in sales per hour. You watch for 10 minutes and you see hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of smokes. I have seen thousand dollar orders for tobacco alone always several hundred dollars just while I get my smokes.

Who is going to pay for the busted up roads from all the traffic going to these places. Us we will pay, it will be our town that foots the bill.

Plain and simple they want their own laws and rules they can provide for themselves. We give them enough enough said . They live the way they want to Canadian citizens they are with special treatments .



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Why should we keep handing them everything for nothing?. How many 100s of millions are they making in the cannabis industry? What about the all the tobacco shops? Tens of thousands of dollars are being picked up by these stores on a daily basis. They have their own cannabis grow facilities that will be again sold tax free in their stores??.

The store here I have tried counting a few times. But they makeing thousands of dollars in sales per hour. You watch for 10 minutes and you see hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of smokes. I have seen thousand dollar orders for tobacco alone always several hundred dollars just while I get my smokes.

Who is going to pay for the busted up roads from all the traffic going to these places. Us we will pay, it will be our town that foots the bill.

Plain and simple they want their own laws and rules they can provide for themselves. We give them enough enough said . They live the way they want to Canadian citizens they are with special treatments .



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Sounds like you are part of the problem. No market, no distributor !!

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Sounds like you are part of the problem. No market, no distributor !!

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Yes I spend 40 bucks a week lol. It wont be any different if I spent 100 at the regular store exceptions pay way more..Just myself wont solve the problems, may aswell get the most of it.

If I had the space to grow my own tobacco I would. Probably will try one day never had fresh tobacco lol. Need a small plot of it to try out.[emoji106]
Like the cannabis I have supplied my own for the past 15 years. Why waste your money? . It was illegal to buy what's the difference if I grew a few ? Same didnt matter but I was saving money[emoji106] . Why waste my hard earned money on something I could grow out side [emoji1787][emoji1787]

When the liquor store went on strike years ago my wife went in to buy a bottle. The lady behind us was fully stocking up and was panicked they were going on strike. She asked if we are ok with the strike I said I could care less my habit comes from garden [emoji106] . She just about killed me with the look on her face she was so mad lol.

I have been open about the cannabis for 25 years I didnt hide it . Only from the kids even after legalization I hide it from them.

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So I'm hearing now that the land they are on is not Canadian land its indigenous land lol. If it's not Canadian lands why is the government paying so much for other lands. It's like they are not even Canadian. What are we paying them for. Why does the government keep handing over and bribing them with money?


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Now he's saying the barricades must come down, and they're saying we won't resume talks until they stop building the pipeline. Whose going to cave in first, or who has the biggest gonads... He's still a joke even with the whiskers...

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Now he's saying the barricades must come down, and they're saying we won't resume talks until they stop building the pipeline. Whose going to cave in first, or who has the biggest gonads... He's still a joke even with the whiskers...

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Sure no problem...you don't like pipelines and the products they carry. We will stop the pipeline and anything they carry...😈

Just like the budget, this crisis will solve itself.

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Just like the budget, this crisis will solve itself.

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In this case you are correct given Ontarians grow balls like the folks from Alberta and tear that crap down.

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So I'm hearing now that the land they are on is not Canadian land its indigenous land lol. If it's not Canadian lands why is the government paying so much for other lands. It's like they are not even Canadian. What are we paying them for. Why does the government keep handing over and bribing them with money?


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Why is a good question. Why are we handing them over billions of dollars when they dont even pay taxes? Why are they being allowed to commit criminal offenses and be immune to it? Why have they been allowed to capitalize on the drug trafficking and be immune to that as well. Now they are holding our countries economy hostage, its pathetic.

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Why is a good question. Why are we handing them over billions of dollars when they dont even pay taxes? Why are they being allowed to commit criminal offenses and be immune to it? Why have they been allowed to capitalize on the drug trafficking and be immune to that as well. Now they are holding our countries economy hostage, its pathetic.

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It's as if they they are foreigners their own part of Canada. Seems to me they want their own way of doing things that are different from Canadian laws. They are there own cult they should fend for themselves. Like any other country or nation that lives amongst the world.

If they want it that way so be it dont complain.
If they are there own nation why are we paying for it. They are foreigners to Canada.

What does every country or state have???
Its has people , jobs, businesses ,a market place, it has living conditions they have their own regulations and laws,they have boards and mayors = chiefs . This sounds like thier own problems that Canadians are facing. Yes they live in Canada under thier own rules and regulations and thier own land. They have everything a state or country needs to live. Why does our Canadian government need to kiss as s when they are their own NATION.

Not our problem?

If I took over it and started my own state I would be responsibility for laws , money ,a market to make to money, living conditions,jobs ,regulating the law, land and so on. It seems they have all this and more .

Its not about racism it's power and they have more power then us us Canadians.

You want to move onto problems?
Yes they have problems yes they create their problems. Their environment witch they live only gets passed on the next generation. If they want to live like that it is their own problems. Remember they are there own NATION they must fix the way they live think and live in order to fix the problems.

They have everything they need for their own Nation it's up to them what they do with it how they proceed to live. If they want to be the way they are and live under their own rules regulations they should man up and do it themselves. They are their own government living under our government tax dollars . Until this changes nothing will change and they will continue to scam billions of billions of dollars of our tax dollars.

They have the power ,they have the jobs, they have a markets to make good money, they have their own laws, they have their own police, they have own land they have,they have their own way of living, they have there own boards, they have their own chiefs, they have everything a national needs to survive the problem is THEM.

They are already separated by our government on their own doing not because of Canadians. We as Canadians didn't separate them that is their own problem they need to fix and live as Canadians or get off the pot. We may aswell help Africa out give them billions of dollars to so they try and end poverty. It the same crap but it in our own backyard.

I say pis on them they are their own problems. They want to live the way they do in Canada they have power to fend for themselves.




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https://youtu.be/GCS7VTDaZ5k

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Its Ontarios fault [emoji2958][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji107]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chr...ontarios-fault

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It ok, he's trying to dislocate his jaw and pull his foot out now.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/...-trudeau-says/

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With a population of less than 5 percent the indigenous people in Canada they should all be millionaires [emoji1787] the government gives them enough money they make their own money

Can anyone see a bigger picture or am I crazy?

The government was giving 55 million to a community of 1800 people to put the gas line through.

What happens to the money they generate? Where does it go? Do they pis it away on the vodka bottles smoke it up with smoke signals. Bury it ?

We give them more than our own https://www.fraserinstitute.org/arti...funding-canada

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It ok, he's trying to dislocate his jaw and pull his foot out now.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/...-trudeau-says/

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Isn't that the tone that kept sheer out of the meeting on Tuesday [emoji1787][emoji1787] lol.

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Isn't that the tone that kept sheer out of the meeting on Tuesday [emoji1787][emoji1787] lol.

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I think his meeting went much like;

Trudeau, "we need to"

Every other politician, "shut up and get rid of them!"

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I read that CLG had agreed to pay the bands that were in the pipeline path, 10m per year, just to allow it. They also signed agreements with indigenous contractors to do the work employing hundreds. Go figure !!!

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I read that CLG had agreed to pay the bands that were in the pipeline path, 10m per year, just to allow it. They also signed agreements with indigenous contractors to do the work employing hundreds. Go figure !!!

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The bands were/are all for it. The hereditary chiefs, who probably aren't directly in line for any of those $$$ are feeling left out.

I can see this thing going south very easily. The village idiot and his crew will throw the police under the bus. Blair is very good at that already ! So much for sunny ways !!

Anybody who's worked on the rail line knows.... "the train always wins"

OK, can someone please help me ... the bands agreed and approved ... but the hereditary chiefs did not ...
What is the hierocracy here? I don't understand how the hereditary chiefs are separate from the bands ?? Are they not part of a band?

How come they have so much power to trump the agreements made by the bands?

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OK, can someone please help me ... the bands agreed and approved ... but the hereditary chiefs did not ...
What is the hierocracy here? I don't understand how the hereditary chiefs are separate from the bands ?? Are they not part of a band?

How come they have so much power to trump the agreements made by the bands?

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Nope, they are a monarchy that is not voted in, there is no democracy there.

Opp have moved it today cn has had enough . Good to see them stepping in and removing the blockades. See what the news says about it later

https://youtu.be/SILKfsV10-E

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Opp have moved it today cn has had enough . Good to see them stepping in and removing the blockades. See what the news says about it later

https://youtu.be/SILKfsV10-E

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Most likely,...no charges will be laid....

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I think cn rail is trying to press charges.

If they stick that will be another story.

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FN protesters have shut down the GO line between Hamilton and Aldershot this morning.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6590842/h...rail-blockade/

While the right to protest is enshrined the charter so is the fact that everyone is equal before and under the law. These protesters do not have the right to shut down travel in our country. They burned the court injunction the police served them last night. It is time to stop this before someone is hurt or worse.

Hard to negotiate "nation to nation" when one of them can't resolve who actually speaks for their nation. Combine that with a PM who quivers at the sight of anyone armed with dollar store bristol board.

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Hard to negotiate "nation to nation" when one of them can't resolve who actually speaks for their nation. Combine that with a PM who quivers at the sight of anyone armed with dollar store bristol board.

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Or a PM who sends mixed messages by saying reconciliation is important yet mocks FN protesters in front of Toronto elite or who says he wants to better FN wealth yet stymies projects which would do exactly that.

I hope all the cidiots that voted Trudeau are happy they cant get to work now because he doesn't have the balls to stop the blockades now in Hamilton. At least the tax paying people out west took down the blockades themselves.

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Or a PM who sends mixed messages by saying reconciliation is important yet mocks FN protesters in front of Toronto elite or who says he wants to better FN wealth yet stymies projects which would do exactly that.

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Yes, his years of promises to everybody (FNs, industry, environmentalists) have elevated expectations all around. Now he can't fulfill all those promises.

The power struggles within FN the world are real and are having ongoing negative impacts on their ability to negotiate in good faith from the Federal level all the way down to the municipal government level. Governments at all levels can only operate within the framework of existing legislation. When that legislation identifies a duty to consult with a First Nation as defined in the Indian Act, there is no party status afforded to other purported FN governance groups that may emerge during the process. FNs themselves are struggling with this. Just look at the current situation with the Metis Nation of Ontario and the different pop-up groups that have emerged who assert that the MNO does not speak for them.

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Yes, his years of promises to everybody (FNs, industry, environmentalists) have elevated expectations all around. Now he can't fulfill all those promises.

The power struggles within FN the world are real and are having ongoing negative impacts on their ability to negotiate in good faith from the Federal level all the way down to the municipal government level. Governments at all levels can only operate within the framework of existing legislation. When that legislation identifies a duty to consult with a First Nation as defined in the Indian Act, there is no party status afforded to other purported FN governance groups that may emerge during the process. FNs themselves are struggling with this. Just look at the current situation with the Metis Nation of Ontario and the different pop-up groups that have emerged who assert that the MNO does not speak for them.

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The problem now is the original protest that the hereditary chiefs were doing about not being consulted has been highjacked by environmental radicals and general anarchists who have decided to hit at our economy. Why is this not being considered an attack on our sovereignty?

The fact the protests are a small group within the band population does speak to your point about the internal strife within bands. Not all FN bands or even the majority of the bands agree with these protests.

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I hope all the cidiots that voted Trudeau are happy they cant get to work now because he doesn't have the balls to stop the blockades now in Hamilton. At least the tax paying people out west took down the blockades themselves.

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Polls show more support for the conservative then the liberals. Before the teck bailout wonder what they think now lol.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...anos-1.4826701

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Yes, his years of promises to everybody (FNs, industry, environmentalists) have elevated expectations all around. Now he can't fulfill all those promises.

The power struggles within FN the world are real and are having ongoing negative impacts on their ability to negotiate in good faith from the Federal level all the way down to the municipal government level. Governments at all levels can only operate within the framework of existing legislation. When that legislation identifies a duty to consult with a First Nation as defined in the Indian Act, there is no party status afforded to other purported FN governance groups that may emerge during the process. FNs themselves are struggling with this. Just look at the current situation with the Metis Nation of Ontario and the different pop-up groups that have emerged who assert that the MNO does not speak for them.

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In-fighting among splinter groups and the inability of the Assembly of First Nations to unite in a common cause will be their great undoing. Liberals are the grand masters of division and derision. With this issue,they'll wield it like an ax.....much the same as what they're doing with firearms owners. Bafflegab,bullshyte and waffling gets 'em every time.

They must have great employers to let them get time off work to set up these barricades... I asked my boss today if I could have paid time off to go protest the FN barricades. He wish me good luck on finding a new job....:confused:

Maybe CP, CN, and VIA should setup barriers were all the roads off the Reservations cross the tracks. It's railway property so they would not be trespassing. Lets see how FN feel when the groceries and gas don't come in, and they can't get out to visit the doctor or go to appointments.

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Maybe CP, CN, and VIA should setup barriers were all the roads off the Reservations cross the tracks. It's railway property so they would not be trespassing. Lets see how FN feel when the groceries and gas don't come in, and they can't get out to visit the doctor or go to appointments.

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Amen. What goes around, comes around. Have a short protest but don't stay long enough to shoot yourself in the foot. I think this will result in elevated animosity towards FN's.

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Maybe CP, CN, and VIA should setup barriers were all the roads off the Reservations cross the tracks. It's railway property so they would not be trespassing. Lets see how FN feel when the groceries and gas don't come in, and they can't get out to visit the doctor or go to appointments.

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Oops the train just stald captain lol. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji106]


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Amen. What goes around, comes around. Have a short protest but don't stay long enough to shoot yourself in the foot. I think this will result in elevated animosity towards FN's.

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You think !!! Maybe 70 billion dollars worth of animosity...

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No you would want the trains moving up and down the line, so the FN could sit there and watch them go by but can't cross railway property.

OPP took two weeks to move trespassers off the tracks. Toronto police did it in 2 hours. RCMP...months, years?


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Amen. What goes around, comes around. Have a short protest but don't stay long enough to shoot yourself in the foot. I think this will result in elevated animosity towards FN's.

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I truly hope it does! One segment of society cannot continue to pay and pay and pay for another, I don't care what race they are. I don't care what their history is and I don't care what the 150 yr. old treaty say's. If this wakes the populace of Canada up to see what the issues really are, the un-ending amount of money that it costs to support FN, because they won't even try to support themselves, then that is a good thing.

Owning a person of another race was legal in Canada 190 years ago, 160 years ago in the US, same era as alot of these treaties, alot of these race based treaties are nothing more than treating them like idiot kids that can't understand the real world... actually there are still those that the real world is beyond them ... but it is time to throw out that old race based sh**! Some reserves as a whole could be rolled into a corporation and do great, others should be rolled into the welfare system but the divisive us vs them sh**, gives us race based violence, corruption and essentially organized crime in the worst cases... time for them to be part of the real world! The Liberal like the divisiveness though, Harper put in laws to make chiefs and reserves do accounting and disclosure... guess what the Libs did... Justlied "Budgets balance themselves" Trudeau and his barbarian* horde make incompetence look like a good thing. This gov't has to fall soon and I am hoping a spring election is coming, the NDP has to see that supporting the Libs will cost them big time so... I am still saying non confidence vote and failure in the spring.

On CTV the one ex-chief said this had set back reconciliation by 20 years.... he may have understated it if this continues where elected and even some of the hereditary chiefs are on one side being ignored and the radicals and it seems Tides based groups are given the media attention and ignored by the RCMP etc.

*Def'n (approx. what I remember the writers def'n was from a recent book I read,)
Barbarian - a person dedicated to the destruction of the current culture and the imposition of another at the cost of those in the current culture, often through the use of violence and force.


P.S.
If you want to know which side the Libs are on... lies and funding...
https://torontosun.com/news/national...onmental-group

P.S. 2
GO train blocked again and this...
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...t-sites-emerge
Fires lit, pallets thrown during Ontario rail protests, as Legault warns of AK-47s in Kahnawake






Ak-47's ..... hmmm....
http://www.firearms-safety-course.co...bited-firearms

Well this one is off the scale corrupt/stupid so time to not put another P.S.

The media is talking agreements but it is only a proposal and since SNC got shoved under the rug and JWR got the boot you can really tell that the legal system is f***** by the Libs.... throwing pallets, setting fires, dumping gasoline etc. on the tracks Justice Minister calls "throwing a snowball at the train" and dismisses calls that trying to derail it is an act of terrorism....
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/prot...etti-1.4832614
For those that have a Rebel subscription, I like how they show and put together alot of things like interviews with people like the ELECTED chiefs and some of the REAL hereditary chiefs etc.. you know the ones the Libs and paid for media don't want to speak to.
https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_march_2_2020
Some of the examination of the state of some of the reserves shows some are worse that I had even heard ...600 "nations"... such as one "nation" of 3,000 with 5 elected and 13 hereditary chiefs plus houses and clans etc... a fake elected chief getting Tides funds and declaring himself as chief over the 3 women that were the real ones etc...... what a mess!


I wonder if the Toronto 18 will get their charges dropped and a payoff under this gov't.

Mosq I watched a few of the rebel videos

That is were the first nations lady said they they need to worry about the opioids before better jobs.

In another they were buying a case of beer to all that helped take down the barricades lol. At least they will get something for the work they did the government does not like stepping into the problems



But throwing rocks at the trains and starting the fires when they are passing by in nonsense .

I'm almost game for some reserve blockades, who's down.????

We can stop hundreds of thousands of dollars in just a few locations. Shut down their businesses.. last Saturday was a continuous line up for both tobacco and cannabis. Only one weekend at my location could loose them 100 grand.

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Mosq I watched a few of the rebel videos

That is were the first nations lady said they they need to worry about the opioids before better jobs.

In another they were buying a case of beer to all that helped take down the barricades lol. At least they will get something for the work they did the government does not like stepping into the problems



But throwing rocks at the trains and starting the fires when they are passing by in nonsense .

I'm almost game for some reserve blockades, who's down.????

We can stop hundreds of thousands of dollars in just a few locations. Shut down their businesses.. last Saturday was a continuous line up for both tobacco and cannabis. Only one weekend at my location could loose them 100 grand.

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You better get your lawyer on speed dial. You’d be in the bucket in less than 2 hours !!

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You better get your lawyer on speed dial. You’d be in the bucket in less than 2 hours !!

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May as well pay him for the hour or two you are at the blockade and have him video tape it from a good location.... you will need him before the 2 hours is up for sure... that blockade they would not let stand.

No lawyer would be needed right away except for advice lol.
With my clean record I'm sure I could sign myself out on a promis to appear, unless its some heavy duty federal laws I would be breaking.
I'll be looking into the laws sooner than later.

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We have the same rights to a peaceful protest.
We just wouldn’t get our way with a blockade.

Yes I think there is possibility right to the road as well. That word be the only place to do it lol. Just not a hwy or a place that could cause death from an accident lol. Back country road should be alright [emoji1787][emoji54].
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