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Doug Ford has brought up the abortion issue, this is why they lost the last election, being stupid and stirring the pot with the election in the bag.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/doug-f...pert-1.3832209
He did not need to woo social conservatives, he needs the Toronto vote.
That is the reason why he has handlers who will not let him speak' off the cuff', and the reason they have cancelled the media bus, and he will not speak at any 'open forums', where tough questions can be asked.
Published March 7 is not news. He won the vote, what's your point??Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Yep, a nice opinion piece that equates to eff all. I think the Conservatives will win with a majority gov't.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
The fact that a lot of women will not vote because of this, it is just coming around social media now, that is why it only came to light at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
If you really think it is no big deal to have 50% of the voters pissed off because of something you are crazy.
The bottom line is people have had enough of being raped by the Liberals, as will be very clear after next election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Yep, you got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Rob Ford is dead. Doug Ford is the leader of the Ontario PC Party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Agree !Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Sorry, slip up, DOUG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Rob Ford is dead. latest polling has Ford in a position to form a majority government. People have had enough of incompetence and corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
The bottom line is that the election is not here yet, the people had enough with Liberals for 2 previous elections and the Conservatives stole defeat from the arms of victory, nothing is won yet. People may be pissed with the Liberals but they could just as easily welcome in the NDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
You heard it here first. This time it's different. If the Liberals aren't voted out the province and country are in serious danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Maybe you were too young to remember what the NDP did. They even screwed the civil servants. You may never see another NDP government in Ontario. The provinces who elect NDP suffer big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I enjoyed my ' Rae Days', and I think the rest of the province were glad to see the unions take a hit. I this election people may be looking at the lesser of the 3 evils. Which could be any one of the parties ,depending on ones frame of mind.
This is a month old article that turned out to be more leftist media "spin" to create an adverse issue where none existed. It's quite typical of Liberals trying to make a mile from an inch. They're fooling nobody. The jig's up for Wynne et al. They're done. Stick a fork in 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
It may be leftist spin but it is making the rounds on social media, therefore it matters, it does have an impact, being an idiot when there is a microphone and camera on will be caught and will hurt votes, I hope not that many but the last 2 elections proved how badly the Ontario Conservatives can run a campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I remember Rae Days, 2 weeks of March break and a lot of pissed off teachers, but it seems as though they have short memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
This is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
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Well, never underestimate the PC party's ability to blow a sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Rob Ford is alive !? :)
And this is exactly what the libs and the medias are hoping for. A bunch of over confident celebrating Conservatives that won't bother to go voting because obviously "We won". While on the other side every students, welfare and get-for-free voters will show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
This is really bad!
Not this time. Again, this time is different. PC Party membership has skyrocketed, so I'd expect Conservatives to be showing up at the polls.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
They still have to show up and vote, the odds are in their favour but nobody has defined choke quite as well as the Ontario Conservatives, even better than the Toronto Maple Leafs.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
I hope you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
It's gotten to the point that Canadians are fearing for their future, and kids and grand kids futures. Open borders, terrorists being integrated, taxes going up consistently, with absolutely no hope for the future under the horrendous leadership of the Liberals. Apparently 100% of collected corporate taxes go towards paying JUST the interest on Ontario's deficit. Soon all of our taxes will ONLY cover the interest. I'm pretty sure all these new Conservative members will be at the polls, with bells on.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
Teachers haven't the common sense God gave a gnat......book smart,life stupid. Anyone who believes anything they see on social media are right up there with them. That's why Ontario really needs a Doug Ford at this juncture. One more leftist liberal government will wipe out the entire provincial economy and could quite possibly drag the rest of the nation down with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I'll have to agree about the teachers comment, I mentioned before the guy I know who is a die hard leftie/socialist (his terms), his mortgage is 50% higher than when he bought the house 20+ years ago.
Someone pointed out there is another way to get votes .... ... Public jobs again (probably unionized) go UP.
........................Feb '18 Mar '18 Feb - Mar 18 %,
Employees 6,070.8 6,073.8 0.0
Public sector 1,346.1 1,352.7 0.5
Private sector 4,724.7 4,721.1 -0.1
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quoti...80406a-eng.htm
The NDP or the Liebral party winning would be an economic, social and cultural suicide.
By stating 50% you assume that all women are pro abortion. Definitely not the case. Some percentage certainly and probably a majority but that will be slanted somewhat based on demographics with the highest concentration of upset women in the 18-35 year old segment. This segment traditionally has poor voter turnout and in all probability the ones that do vote were not voting for Ford in the first place. The result is the net impact on the number of votes he will get is minimal either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
50% having an issue with a government being anti-abortion is probably a conservative number. Ontario as a population is not a bible thumping conservative stronghold, it is very much Liberal, they need to be pulling people away from Liberals, not pushing them back towards them with nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Do some research before spouting nonsense. The split in Ontario is 49% anti 51% pro for abortion on demand under any circumstance. Bible thumping is largely irrelevant as compared to the other provinces we are smack dab in the middle with some being more some being less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
https://globalnews.ca/news/2535846/6...es-ipsos-poll/
That took 30 seconds to find and is from 2016. It and numerous other independent polls are widely available that confirm your statement as bunk and mine as fact. So in the big picture piss off half and make the other half happy. Net result is irrelevant like I said.
The 50/50 split is pretty universal in the western world and has been for a while. I have no doubt the "L'll Potatoe's" cabinet is split the same regardless of what they say publicly to stay in good liberal standing. There is nothing to be gained bringing up that file which is why Harper never did nor will Scheer. Trudough brings it up because he truly feels he has the power to change the world in his image. Didn't work so well in India, China or the USA. Not that these countries have much power/influence.....
This poll is meaningless unless aligned with how wards are lined up. Do you really think that Rural Ontario would vote 49/51 on abortion and Toronto core would also vote 49/51?Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Remember, rural Ontario does not mean much when it comes to an election, you are wooing Toronto. No matter what the rest of the province votes Toronto holds the keys to the castle and this has always been the case.
Toronto also has a growing ethnic population with voters who's religions often aren't exactly "progressive". The liberals let them in to increase the votes but at some point once they are settled their values will be reflected in the votes.
Also, Ford Nation is mostly Toronto based. This will likely give the PC's some seats they never had. Add in the disgust with Wynne that will push people to the NDP and that vote splitting will only help the PC's. I don't think she can buy herself out this time. Livingston is in court today for sentencing on the email scandals. He is now the poster boy for the liberals. Ford is a street fighter. Expect him to bring up Ben Levin the convicted pedophile who was a senior adviser and drafted the new sex Ed curriculum for Wynne.
Seeing that thread is still going on I'm wondering, is there any Conservative that think that talking about abortion before an election is a good idea?
I'm no political expert but to me it's simply "Not" a smart idea. It has no positive action. I'm pretty certain that if someone is against it , he votes Conservative anyway....
As Fox mentioned earlier, the best way to win this election is to shut up. Wynne has done enough on her own for the Conservative to win it. Picking Ford was already a risky move so why add more to the plate.... IMO, politics now a day is all about strategy, forget about dignity, fairness and integrity until you win it. If you gonna win you got to play the game and play it smart.
That was an old news article from March 7, prior to the leadership vote. He also said he would not bring the issue up. There will be many more similar attacks from the Liebrals before June. They are grasping at straws in an attempt to keep their jobs......Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I realized that but you would think that a leader, or someone that would like to be one, would see way passed 30 days. The guy should be able to plan 6 month to two years in advance..... Any conservative, leader or not, that would bring a subject like that to the public is hurting the party. What is done is done but gosh this guys should think twice before opening their bucket for the good of the entire party.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
You are right there !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
Doug's down to earth personality, fighting for the average citizen to bring common sense back to Ontario is connecting with voters all across Ontario!
Doug Ford makes his pitch to northern Ontario, where PC's have won just 1 seat in 30 years.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ario-1.4614005
Bombardier management need to 'get their act together,' Doug Ford says during visit to Thunder Bay, Ont.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunde...dier-1.4614346
It is sooooo refreshing to hear someone speak the language of common sense.
“You see what’s happening south of the border,” Ford told host CTV’s Your Morning in March. “They have trillions of dollars coming in, the lowest unemployment we’ve seen in 20 years, and they have manufacturing jobs flowing back into the country. Up in Ontario, you have more red tape, more rules, more regulations … the carbon tax ... the highest hydro rates … some of the highest property taxes, and then you’re supposed to compete?”
How Doug Ford could win the Ontario election
https://www.ctvnews.ca/features/how-...tion-1.3876436