A beer ombudsman ? Seriously. Although I may qualify for that job.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/04/16...grocery-stores
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A beer ombudsman ? Seriously. Although I may qualify for that job.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/04/16...grocery-stores
It's good to see they're concentrating on the important stuff.
An ombudsman means a new department that will likely have hundreds of sunshine listers and unionized liberal voters. If she can create enough of a voter pool she will be in power forever.
Finally!! ROFLMFAO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Should be good for at least 200 jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
She's on crack.
Read that earlier today..and my jaw just about bounced off my shoe tops.
Honestly, what kind of complaints is she possibly imagining that an ombudsman is needed?
/ring
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"Hello, Mr Um Buds man here. What's that you say? You drank a 12 pack in the parking lot, drove away, totalled your car and a windmill and now want to sue the Prov of Ont because beer shouldn't be sold in grocery stores? Well good sir, I'm glad you called, we'll fix you right straight"
So after we sell off all the public assets one by one, how will we continue to offset your bad budgeting? Basically she's like a junky.
Two points:
I hope those people who were critical of Harris for "selling" off the 407 will be critical of Wynne for selling off part of Hydro One. I am not gong to hold my breath on that one.
I got a big laugh when she said this was the biggest shakeup to beer sales since prohibition ended. I think she is trying to make a bigger deal out of this than it is. There is to be a new tax on 24s, you will only be able to buy 6-packs in the grocery stores and the beer only will be in major grocery chains. More lipstick on a pig.
Dyth, you won't. I know a few people who were/are dye'd in the wool Liberals, or if not swallowed everything they were being sold starting around 2007/2008 and continued to be. As with here, some discussions/debates went on for long periods of time. All but a couple are eerily silent these days. The few that are still strong Liberals…which I think is more about just being blindly Anti con everything, than Pro Lib. Well I'll give them props for being true to their convictions.
I have no clue what the next 3 years will bring. I have big concerns about the 5-15 following, and suspect that depending on how winds blow it could get real ugly. As is, today its getting real painful for real people. Some decided everyone should pay for everything and like life like that.
In the news yesterday on top of the WBC, Beer Store/LCBO and Hydro one.
Was Toyota announcing the Corolla and others will no longer be built here. Just high end luxury cars. Mexico is friendlier.
/looks at debt levels (personal and govt.'s)
/looks at Interest rates
/looks at the vast majority of people not having enough to retire on
/looks at even less and less pocket money to spend on things, grow the economy or pay down debt or save
/wonders how many high end cars will be in demand
Beer sales in grocery stores.... translation to real world ............. selling the rights to large companies who can pay, taxes and price increases with money going to reduce debt or in Liberal friendly pockets.
Hydro sell off ..... translation to real world ............. selling to large companies who can pay, price increases to guarantee profits with money going to reduce debt or in Liberal friendly pockets.
Goal - lump it all into 2017 so they can say they balanced the budget... then the next year it goes back to $10 to $15B deficit.
Achievement - appearance to their followers who don't worry about debt numbers, unemployment rates etc.
Final achievement - can't afford to buy a beer, micro breweries still shut out, taxpayers ripped off and leaving province or broke!
Yup, that about sums it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
BTW... in the title, there is an assumption that Wynne had her shyte in the first place. Hard to lose something you didn't have to begin with
The Hydro sell off will be a gift to her supporters. I wouldn't be surprised to see the teachers buy it. The grocery stores who get the licences will be large chains who contribute to Wynne. this government couldn't run a hot dog stand and they are getting involved in initiatives they will fukup and most likely trigger more police investigations.
LMAO... I just started a thread 'What if the teacher's union bought a share of Hydro?Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
There is no doubt this will become another clusterfak fubar. And don't anyone kid yourselves none of this is being done with the betterment of the tax payer or the province in mind .NONE OF IT.
And to the voters that saw fit to give this piece of work a majority.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psa36cd343.jpg
Ok I feel better now.
for effing sake. i never voted for the red color, I AM GOING to leave this effing province with retarded GTA voters....
I saw this coming but not a majority. when i saw it. i told them you've effed yourself over for next 4 years.
It'll take longer to fix this mess than four piddly years.Quote:
Originally Posted by poltrojan
Just smoke and mirrors to divert from the big news which was the 60% sale of Hydro One (the media always takes the bait). Short term gains aren't going to help our province in the long run. Just wait until the remaining 40% is bought up by private companies - because once the 60% is gone we aren't going to be getting it back for cheap (if at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
And no one is talking about how hydro rates are going up next week.....
I'm not a fan of big government but in the case of something so fundamental to our well being like Hydro I feel we need government involvement and oversight. We can vote idiots out but once ownership is sold off then we are at their mercy. That scares the hell out of me. Also any deal this large is completely out of this government's level of competence and will no doubt involve activities and decisions requiring police investigations.
I don't see how Hydro rates in Ontario can do anything other than climb steadily. If I thought for a moment that I could convince my wife to move west away from her family we would be gone, gone, gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
So the only alternative is to look at ways to reduce, augment and/or replace how we get electricity. As the Liberals continue to mismanage power in this province it is only going to become a greater cost benefit to moving off the grid or any action that gets you closer to that goal.
My understanding of the beer sales is that the grocery stores will only be selling singles and 6-packs (and during Beer Store hours). The LCBO will have 10 or so "test sites" selling 12-packs and the Beer Store will hold on to the 24+ monoploy (as well as the 12 and 18 packs).
This announcement isn't ending any big monopoly it is protecting it (the Beer Store) and giving consumers a false sense that we are actually gaining something (which we are not). The majority of beer drinkers know that buying a case is cheaper than buying a 6-pack so majority of them will still shop at The Beer Store.
Think what is really sad is people are talking more about being able to buy beer in a grocery store than they are the sale of Hydro One.
Interesting read below:
Ontario's new beer strategy has already gone skunky
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...click=sf_globe
Interesting read. Unfortunately the imbeciles have given her a majority so she can do whatever she wants and is pressing on with that. In 4 yrs when her mandate is up this Province will be a complete basket case except for the people who financed her election. This beer thing is a complete shell game designed to change the channel and deflect from the Hydo disaster she is about to inflict on us and our children. She is assembling another layer of government to manage beer sales only. trust me the "ombudsman" has already been selected. This new layer of sunshine listers must just be giggling in anticipation.
I agree CalTek that the hydro disaster will haunt us forever and with these Lugens running things we will likely end up paying people to buy Hydro one. As I said before nothing this government does will benefit the taxpayer or the province of Ontario AND THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 GOAL OF ANY GOVERNMENT.
Good point Cal.Quote:
Originally Posted by CalTek
And that's the sad part. Somehow as time goes forward there will be more attention to consumer convenience than there will be to our collective common good.
I just see this as a balloon being floated to gauge response. Already it has been announced that beer prices are going up via the $.025 assessment. The Beer Store is not going to willingly allow Wynne to carve into their profits and of course the LCBO which is represented by another large union is not going to accept reduction in workforce.
So we really just need to wait until the announcement comes from the Beer Ombudsman that beer and liquor prices had to be 'adjusted' given that the Liberals were only responding to public demand that convenience of buying at the grocery store was something that was wanted. The part that won't get advertised is the fact that there is no way this can be done unless there is a means to pour more money into the coffers.
So, get ready to drink your homebrew in the dark cause you won't be able to afford to keep the lights on either!
No sympathy, you get the governments you deserve.
Without re-hashing sooooooooo many things, both old and stale, and "newish" (the last 12 months), or "new" (the past 3-4months).
On table today
Hydro sale, soaring cost of Hydro
LCBO/BEER store (which I think I still agree with but..)
Teachers on strike today in Durham Region
Doctors and Nurses walking away from the table and Healthcare rotting...
Pan AM games. The smoke is billowing its looking real ugly
Honestly, don't know what to "say" anymore. Those who refused to see, those who defended, those who voted.
And there is far more on the horizon (economic concerns and more).
I don't understand how the Liberals think that with only having a 40% share,they'll have any say in what the privatized company may charge consumers or how it will be operated. Even if the remaining shares are sold at 10% each,if they vote in a bloc,isn't there enough votes to offset the government shares?
Yes. 40% ownership is still a minority no matter what those crooked imbeciles say.
The other question is Will anybody want to do business with this government. I mean who would want to get involved , Who will be in charge or is everyone in charge of their own 10 %. Who gets to set rates? who is in charge of maintenance, infrastructure ?
I can only assume they already have 6 different unions interested in owning their share.