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this cop has no chance, media isnt helping at all, plus a open door trial. might as well throw him off a cliff lol.
im not saying the cop wasn't wrong, but the whole innocent until proven guilty thing is long gone a long time ago lol.
Well I have arrested scores of suspect's over a 35 year career, I might have had a suspect in that position for a minute, but after handcuffing the next logical thing to do is get a suspect into a scour car or simply start walking him/ her to the station.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
I have never placed a knee in a position to choke of breathing, the whole thing was excessive use of force.
In all probability he will go down for manslaughter as there was no intent to kill.
The defense is that other factors such as a pre medical condition and drug's in his system were involved
This would be a compromise verdict, will appease the family and supporter's, and not get others riddled up that they are throwing away the key on this guy. IMHO
I agree fully with you Gilly on the eventual verdict but I'm sure there is still that group of radicals out there just waiting for any excuse to start rioting. They won't be appeased regardless of any verdict.
very interesting, im watching the trail and yes the main thing theyre bringing up at the moment is its not a practice to leaver someone prone like that for that long let along while cuffed and a knee on your neck, i believe theyre trying to get him for 1st 2nd degree murder and manslaughter, well see i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The jury is being given the options based on the evidence, one of those will be the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
A lot of 'innocent till proven guilty' assumptions , go out the door, when there is much video evidence. Most people can see.
ahh i see, appreciate the clarificationQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
and fishermcan fair enough you got a big point there lol. they played the whole video in the opening statement***
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He should be put in GP in a federal pen.
The right would then burn down the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Half of the pop of inmates would want to kill him. the other half would protect him, and even give him a pat on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
seems pretty clear that he is indeed guilty of excessive force.
The rioting would be extreme of he somehow gets off. For the sake of the country, they need to convict with everything they can justify. And I'm sure that won't be enough for some.
No, that's the work of the leftist BLM and Antifa that burn the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Tensions are so high, almost have to think it's a no win.
They have a duty of care, once in cuffs. Obviously not present.
If he's guilty of the lessor charges, the "L" will not be happy. "Once again, police abuse goes without justice, let off easy
If he's found guilty of murder. The "R" will not be happy. "railroaded to appease the L"
If found innocent, look out
It will all hinge on the cause of death....drug use, excited delirium, positional asphyxia will all be brought out...
The right doesn't burn the country down. They are too busy working for a living.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
^^^^^ what he said!^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Also, the right is just too busy trying to repair the damage that the left causes.
Why in the news is it always the Left ?
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
So true Werner - busy making a living - most people think this officer was really stupid for doing what he did - I consider myself a conservative but look at the way this officer acted I won't be bent out of shape if they throw. the book at him - it's guys like this that give the police force a bad name - over the years a lot of cops used excessive force and got away with it - once people got cameras and filmed what was going on things started changing - somewhat - there is a law introduced in Congress to make a cop responsible for any fine or money paid to a victim rather than have the public taxpayer pay - Floyd was all doped up at the time - that probably contributed to his death but the cop's actions triggered it - why would anyone want to be a cop in today 's environmentQuote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
The display on Capitol Hill is clear evidence you are wrong, with the death of one officer, many injured and a civilian killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Whatch the real videos of Capitol Hill. The guards opened waist height gates and allowed entrance outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
It was all a farce set up by the left and their marching band Antifa.....lmfao. Friggin hilarious Gilroy.
CNN is warping your mind..
It's a good thing Chuck Norris was there to save A.O.CQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQx9g0ZFSY
Pretty screwed up world we live in when there is no clear definition of right or wrong. Or when the rules only apply to these people but not those. So many loopholes, what if’s, and friends in high places as obstacles or aids depending on what side of the fence you live.
In my opinion he would still be alive if he was just cuffed and put in a car. Simple, straight forward. Lots of wasted money on lawyers, lots of media exposure to only build up more anger and prevent time from passing. Slower healing process, if there is one.
I don’t know if the system is broken or not, but it sucks. In a world where we are the most advanced species and pride ourselves on technological advances we lack the ability of efficiency.
This will awkwardly drag on and create more division. I hope I’m wrong.
This case should have had a change of venue for trial and a full press blackout from the very start. The sad thing is the original complaint was about Floyd passing a bogus $20 bill at a store which turned out to be untrue and racially motivated. The man died for nothing.
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
And what's more, it was only a small number of people who actually went inside, while many many more remained peacefully on the outskirts. Funny thing is, most conservative figures said NOT TO DO IT! That it was a trap (which it clearly was). Yet this one thing is used against conservatives as if they actually pose any threat to the country. Where were all the lefty's when the USA was literally burning for months and an actual autonomous zone was set up, where police were not allowed to enter?
Just beyond insanity.
Ya he would of been dead within a year anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I think the prosecutor said it was a counterfeit bill but that Mr Floyd did not know it was a counterfeit, this could happen to most anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
If you believe this was the left and Antifa, I think your watching to much FOX news. Remember there were many guards and senior managers fired after this riot.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
There weren't any "antifa" goofs anywhere near that crowd. They had to know they'd have had the crap pounded out of them. It would be a bigger story than a few of the dopes getting into Capitol building.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Pretty much brother, some folks on here are way down the rabbit warren. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
That's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The video of the girl getting shot was staged, as the video that was posted on this site clearly showed.
Maybe you missed it. It's since been removed, or at least I can't find it any longer. That by itself answers as to why it's not a story.
Judicial Watch currently has to sue for the dead cops autopsy report, why wouldn't they want the autopsy front and center?
It's pretty simple, just like the Floyd case, it'll expose that the cause of death doesn't fit their BS narrative.
According to MSM...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Antifa had it planned long before. Let the proud boys take the hit for the true homegrown terrorists.
Watch some of the real video that msm has censored. Its obvious some people only believe what misinformation msm is reporting.
Those folk that watch CNN...lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well her husband/wife seem to think she was real, they must be down wabbit holes also https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/ashli-...in-a-throuple/Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Okay . Floyd, he died from various complications, lets say the knee on the neck was the 'straw'. What the cop did, how he did it , and for how long, was excessive. Manslaughter.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Probably just trying to prevent him from swallowing his stash in an effort to save his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
I disagree. That was a deliberate act carried out over a long period of time (9 furkin' minutes with a handcuffed subject SMH). I think that makes it murder 1. Every other officer that stood around watching it should have all been charged with manslaughter as parties to the offense. They got off lucky by only being dismissed. I hope they get sued into oblivion by the family. This whole thing is an outrage and that's coming from an ex-cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/13/97678...f-george-floydQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Yep,I saw that. The federal suit was paid by he city. The civil suit against the individual officers is still active (at least,the last I read). Their financial lives will be ruined forever which is kind of too bad because two of the four were rookies right out of the academy. Now,unless they were trained that it was the procedure (which I doubt),they sure should have known better and stepped in,Chauvin being a senior training officer or not. I have ZERO sympathy for any of these clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
you really think if someone is on your neck like that for 10 minutes while your handcuffed you're gunna survive? drugs in his system or not, he was passed out and he still had his knee on the dudes neck come on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
If he swallowed all his dope when the cops showed up and the autopsy said he died from an overdose. Well he died of an overdose.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Police brutality for his arrest for sure, but not homicide.
They have Police Body Cam video of him complaining he couldn't breath when he was still sitting against the wall..long before he was restrained. His heart was already stressed and the autopsy confirmed the drugs were the cause of death.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
they have showed twice that the medical examiner deemed it was a HOMICIDE.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-...ation-details/
From a no body to a hero - George Floyd - a statue of him sitting on a horse will be erected in the town square - a highway will be called the George Floyd Memorial Highway - a local school will change its name to the George Floyd Grenadiers - kids will be able to buy George Floyd dolls - many parents will name their new baby George - a movie will be eventually made about George and his contributions to society - a special stamp will be made to honor George - then a couple years from now someone will ask a kid if he ever heard of George Floyd - his response - George who?
Hopefully the kid is already asking Donald who?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Sad but true. Meanwhile there hasn't been any real mention of the Uber driver, the special needs Trump supporter kid who was kidnapped and tortured live on Facebook, the 100's of officers shot or injured during routine procedures daily, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
The courtroom did or CBS news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
The facts:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
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But the report released later Monday by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office said Floyd died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression." The manner of death was ruled homicide, but the office noted that "is not a legal determination of culpability or intent." A preliminary autopsy report cited earlier by prosecutors said the county medical examiner's review "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."
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The Hennepin County medical examiner's office, however, said Floyd experienced cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by the officer. The county autopsy said Floyd had "other significant conditions" including "arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; [and] recent methamphetamine use." The office had not previously released the findings pending toxicology reports.
Just listened to the trial this officer need's a new defense lawyer badly.
the courtroom showed it in opening statements. two different documentsQuote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
if you watch the video posted in the OP you'll find it.
What the cop did was wrong..... To serve and protect.....not do as I want.....Not sure if he should be convicted of murder but definitely manslaughter. He took that mans life and for that he should pay.
Heading to miss trial
looks that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn