For those who vote conservative.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

As a result of this, there is now a backlog of 64,929 cases relating to illegal immigration.[/I]

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And who is paying for all these cases??

Lmaso [emoji1787][emoji848].

Surely it not them paying for it maybe some of them are lol.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

How much was the crowbar hotel?

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Paid thousands to stay away[emoji1787][emoji8]for the most part.


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Originally Posted by trimmer21

No one should be allowed to immigrate to this country unless (a) they have a marketable skill (b) they have no criminal record or subversive political affiliation and (c) they're 100% sponsored by a Canadian citizen for a minimum of 3 years. Not one thin dime of the cost should be borne by the taxpayers.

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Exactly. But instead we bring in freeloaders who have absolutely nothing to offer except their hand out for a free ride...

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Exactly. But instead we bring in freeloaders who have absolutely nothing to offer except their hand out for a free ride...

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Any proof of that statement, or is it, just your opinion? Did you see the history of the people who died in the plane that was shot down. Almost all, were immigrants to Canada. Did you see all the Doctors, professors, Phd's ,scientists, and people with post graduate education on that plane,? They were the kind of people that Canada needs. The kind of people the world needs...... Or would you say...'not'.... because they were Muslim?

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Any proof of that statement, or is it, just your opinion? Did you see the history of the people who died in the plane that was shot down. Almost all, were immigrants to Canada. Did you see all the Doctors, professors, Phd's ,scientists, and people with post graduate education on that plane,? They were the kind of people that Canada needs. The kind of people the world needs...... Or would you say...'not'.... because they were Muslim?

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Immigrants and refugees are 2 different things. Immigrants choose to come to another country. Refugees come in fear from where they lived

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Dyth your numbers are off not everyone works. Could probably split that number in half almost lol.

Then you who pays for the rent? I think the government also pays for alot of the places they are staying. Look at all the hotel costs.

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I was referring to the cost per person in Canada. True not all 36 million people in Canada work; however, simply working doesn't make one a tax payer. Sales taxes are paid by all for instance and that is based on consumption with parents paying the taxes for what their children consume and that money can't be dismissed. Unless you can tell me where every penny of the taxes go, I think splitting the cost across the entire population is the simplest way to see how much a refugee costs a person in Canada.

Taking in legit refugees is the right thing to do. Letting people in dragging designer luggage and carrying cell phones is not the right thing to do. There are millions of truly desperate people who have nothing but the tattered clothes on their backs and can’t feed themselves. The opportunists don’t come anywhere near that level of need. But, they will vote for Trudough as soon as they get a voter card. So, stack the voter pool. Control/pay off the media. Give millions of borrowed money to large corporations who are extremely profitable? Then claim they can’t afford to help the veterans? Unreal.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

Why not a more recent article instead of something 3 years ago... after all since then there have been way more than 50,000 more "irregular" refugees.
https://irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics...tatistics.aspx


https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...-75m-this-year
"the $75 million does not include the $1 million per month that is being shelled out to house 200 refugees at the former North York Hydro building on Yonge St. That would bring next year’s tab to $87-million."

"This is on top of the $108 million for emergency hotel and motel spaces already approved in July. Robbinson said they’re currently using nine hotels — four for refugee claimants and five for non-refugees– and that the tab covers both refugee claimants and regular shelter users (the traditional homeless).

She said there are currently 2,400 refugee clients in the system. Some 1,800 are in hotels, 400 are still in shelters and 200 have transferred to the $1-million-a-month shelter at 5,800 Yonge St."


So $87M + $109M.... just for Toronto.



.... while CTV article says the "irregular" (illegal) entry is at $400,000,000 for Canada.... in one year
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/irregu...says-1.4197552

"between 2017 through next fiscal year, this prime minister is choosing to spend $1.1 billion on essentially what amounts to the abuse of our asylum system. Some of the numbers in here are absolutely shocking," Rempel said in response to the PBO report."


.... so we are spending over a billion, the shelters are full and those working with the homeless are calling it an emergency.... yet we keep letting more illegal migrants .. oh sorry ... .irregular immigrants come....
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...onto-1.5400781
and the homeless with no place to go die...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...onto-1.5358048


But hey we got a few to leave .... no real dent in the 50,000 that were supposed to but...
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/ov...ing-in-canada/
Over 50,000 immigrants, many who illegally entered Canada through the border, were ordered deported but remain in the country,

...Over the past three years, the RCMP has intercepted 56,515 immigrants illegally entering Canada—mainly deriving from Hati and Nigeria. The vast majority of these immigrants remain in the country.

Much of this is owed to opaque bureaucratic red-tape. Any individual, for instance, can appeal their deportation notice to the Immigration and Refugee Board. After this, they can then ask a judge to review the case.

As a result of this, there is now a backlog of 64,929 cases relating to illegal immigration.

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Alot of what you are speaking about is muddling actual refugees with economic asylum seekers (or illegal immigrants). These are two different problems but if you mash them up, the numbers of course go up.

My point is the cost of helping a refugee, an honest-to-god refugee as defined by most ration people, is neither financially crippling as some think nor they are not easy street getting loads of money.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Taking in legit refugees is the right thing to do. Letting people in dragging designer luggage and carrying cell phones is not the right thing to do. There are millions of truly desperate people who have nothing but the tattered clothes on their backs and can’t feed themselves. The opportunists don’t come anywhere near that level of need. But, they will vote for Trudough as soon as they get a voter card. So, stack the voter pool. Control/pay off the media. Give millions of borrowed money to large corporations who are extremely profitable? Then claim they can’t afford to help the veterans? Unreal.

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I agree. We can dissect and debate the governments policies and decision without tearing down refugees. The Syrian refugees from 2016 were legit. The asylum seekers which actually drove up much of the cost weren't as far as I am concern and are a separate issue. But it seems some folks don't want to make a distinction between the two.

For me, as I stated before I usually vote Conservative because I want the government to live within its means, I don't have an issue paying to help a refugee who has nothing (I am not being literal here, most people these days have clothes and cell phones and the image of a refugee in tattered clothes is something which happened in a different time and isn't usually the way it happens) to get settled and integrated as fast as possible. It is the decent and right thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

I agree. We can dissect and debate the governments policies and decision without tearing down refugees. The Syrian refugees from 2016 were legit. The asylum seekers which actually drove up much of the cost weren't as far as I am concern and are a separate issue. But it seems some folks don't want to make a distinction between the two.

For me, as I stated before I usually vote Conservative because I want the government to live within its means, I don't have an issue paying to help a refugee who has nothing (I am not being literal here, most people these days have clothes and cell phones and the image of a refugee in tattered clothes is something which happened in a different time and isn't usually the way it happens) to get settled and integrated as fast as possible. It is the decent and right thing to do.

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Seems you don't want to accept the truth of the costs associated with refugees. Yes the facts are from Canadian sources of just refugee costs. You may think it's the right thing to do but others that are working tax payers may feel bringing in more people to drive our countries deficit billions deeper into the hole is not the right thing to do.