Firearms Training : Letter from MP Cheryl Gallant

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

All subject to the appeals process,you should know that.....

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Of course there’s an appeal process ! The facts are, police, both singular and plural, can seize firearms, licences, certificates ALREADY!!!!! They have the authority....something your idol did not know !!!!
Obviously, once seized, the court process kicks in, which includes an appeal process.
But then again, you should know this.....face it, your buddy screwed up! If he did have a clue about the laws, he’s being led around by the snout by our village idiot!!! But from things I’ve heard him say.....he has no clue !!!
And he’s the guy making new confiscation laws.....go figure!

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

You clearly know nothing about our guns laws or the process of revoking a firearms license.Its actually a difficult thing to do and a firearms owner can appeal up through a number of higher courts.

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I’m pretty sure I’m well aware of the firearms legislation.
It’s not all that difficult to revoke a licence. I’ve done a few, and not one went to an appeal.

go to the canadian shooting sports associations sight, they have the full story there on canadas firearms revocation system there, it really is quite simple to have it happen to anybody they want to do it to, pm me an email address, I'll send it to who ever wants to read it...

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Of course there’s an appeal process ! The facts are, police, both singular and plural, can seize firearms, licences, certificates ALREADY!!!!! They have the authority....something your idol did not know !!!!
Obviously, once seized, the court process kicks in, which includes an appeal process.
But then again, you should know this.....face it, your buddy screwed up! If he did have a clue about the laws, he’s being led around by the snout by our village idiot!!! But from things I’ve heard him say.....he has no clue !!!
And he’s the guy making new confiscation laws.....go figure!

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No he is not the guy making the new confiscation laws as he cannot simply pass a law himself.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

No he is not the guy making the new confiscation laws as he cannot simply pass a law himself.

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Give it up Gilly !!!

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

I’m pretty sure I’m well aware of the firearms legislation.
It’s not all that difficult to revoke a licence. I’ve done a few, and not one went to an appeal.

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Its a lot more difficult than Mr Blaney makes out when he says " police can suspend firearms licences".I do not remember having the authority to suspend a firearms license ad hoc. Perhaps Mr Blaney got over emotional and over spoke.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Its a lot more difficult than Mr Blaney makes out when he says " police can suspend firearms licences".I do not remember having the authority to suspend a firearms license ad hoc. Perhaps Mr Blaney got over emotional and over spoke.

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You obviously didn’t work on and FIP investigations......maybe Billy did them ..

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Its a lot more difficult than Mr Blaney makes out when he says " police can suspend firearms licences".I do not remember having the authority to suspend a firearms license ad hoc. Perhaps Mr Blaney got over emotional and over spoke.

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Nope.....he was completely correct !!!

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

You obviously didn’t work on and FIP investigations......maybe Billy did them ..

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Sure I worked on FIP investigations and all and any suspensions came via the Chief Provincial Firearms Office.

Perhaps you can point out in the firearms legislation exactly where it gives a police officer the authority to suspend a firearms license?

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Nope.....he was completely correct !!!

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Only the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) in each province/territory and the delegated Firearms Officers (FOs) have the authority to refuse or revoke licences. The screening process can have as many as three stages, if required:

Primary screening of applicants, based on the information provided on the application form, is done by staff members at the Central Processing Site (CPS) in Miramichi, NB and at the Québec Processing Site (QPS) in Montréal. After it has been determined that the application is complete and the data has been entered into the Canadian Firearms Registration System (CFRS), batch Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) background checks including FIP are conducted electronically with the assistance of the RCMP Accreditation Unit. At the QPS, the Sûreté du Québec assumes this duty. FOs at the CPS can approve totally "clean" applications - that is, information requirements have been met and there are no hits on CPIC or FIP. (Note: Our review did not cover the specific processing activities at the QPS.)
Secondary screening, if required, which involves a closer look at regional automated police information retrieval databases and telephone follow-up with spouses (desk work) is done by CFOs and their delegates (FOs and support staff).
Tertiary screening, if required, conducted by Area and Local Firearms Officers is a more in-depth field investigation that can involve interviews with employers, aboriginal leaders, neighbours, etc