.........and the latest casualty of political correctness

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Originally Posted by MarkB

That thing between ANYONE's legs makes them a BIOLOGICAL male period ... no one can change that, no one ... pretending it isn't is just absurdity. If they associate as being a female ... and they feel lonely and persecuted, then they need support. But WHY would we have to try and "fix" the 99% of the kids that have NO issue with this??? And yes, bald people get persecuted all the time ... some people don't go out anymore, they become depressed. So should we stop pretending we all have hair to make bald people feel better???? It's madness, spin it any way you want .... you are arguing that forcing 99% of children to not identify as their biological birth sex, to try and "help" the 1% that doesn't identify as that ... makes no sense.

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Sing it from the rooftops Mark, most older and sensible people will join you

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Originally Posted by GW11

I'm just glad all those poor children of visible minority groups no longer have to silently cry themselves to sleep at night after their hurtful bedtime stories.

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I have a typical Anglo-French Canadian background, but I am not offended at an image of a settler, a courier-du-bois, a trapper, or anything that came before or after ....so why do some consider pictures of traditional wear by Inuit or Asians offensive ??

Dr Seuss offensive....we’ve certainly lost our way

Not familiar with the specific books, and only have the vaguest of recolecctions. But spin this a different way, then see if you feel the same.

We now know thanks to family law and men being vilified in the courts for a few decades, there's an entire generation or two of young boys that grew up without father figures, who only had limited access, and their perceptions of fathers and men, not the best. We are these days trying to reverse that. Both in the courts and the knowledge that fathers are just as important as mothers. Read the Huffington Post any day of the week and you will find tripe that paints all men as narcissist and all women as empaths. No-one can deny many make fun of young men with hair buns etc, or what some young boys that don't know what a man is.........

Are we ok with the negative portrayal of white men being the root of all evil these days? A rose by any other name......................

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Originally Posted by JBen

Not familiar with the specific books, and only have the vaguest of recolecctions. But spin this a different way, then see if you feel the same.

We now know thanks to family law and men being vilified in the courts for a few decades, there's an entire generation or two of young boys that grew up without father figures, who only had limited access, and their perceptions of fathers and men, not the best. We are these days trying to reverse that. Both in the courts and the knowledge that fathers are just as important as mothers. Read the Huffington Post any day of the week and you will find tripe that paints all men as narcissist and all women as empaths. No-one can deny many make fun of young men with hair buns etc, or what some young boys that don't know what a man is.........

Are we ok with the negative portrayal of white men being the root of all evil these days? A rose by any other name......................

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Of course not, but you’re mixing issues. Dr Seuss books don’t portray anyone in a negative light. Traditional might be interpreted as stereotypical by some, but is that NEGATIVE ?

By whose definition?
Us white folk or asians,inuit, or savages that scalp people, or even “blackface”. Ifs not ok JT to do that...but ultimately, isn’t it to the larger degree not us. Who rarely, ever have had to live with being characterized as...And really the only quasi characterization we whites have had to contend with that I can think of, is these days and white men being characterized as the root of all evil

I learned to read with Dick and Jane, I grew up with Tar Baby stories and Aunt Jemima pancakes. Maybe that's what makes me such a mental mess.

Nicely done:)

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Who is forcing? They are being told that it is okay to feel that way. The 99% need to be told that there is nothing wrong with the way that the 1 % think. I do believe that your % are off. Do you believe in ‘ conversion therapy’ ? That you can 'fix', none binary sexual identification? Steal from some people, the only life that they have , to fit 'our' mold? For what purpose?

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OK, so let me use another word for forcing ... "interjecting" ... why in the world do we even need to interject to "fix" a problem that does not exist with 99% of the children. There are boys, and there are girls, and they are happy being boys, and girls. Period. So now, what are you saying, we have to interject and tell them ... hey you ... yes you ... the 5 year old. I'm not going to call you a girl or a boy, so you can just decide what the heck you want to be, irrespective of what your biological sex is ... kids thinking ... uhhhmm, what the heck are you talking about, I have a thing between my legs, I thought that made me a boy?? No, no ... that doesn't make you a boy ... your mind and what you think makes you a boy, or a girl, or whatever you dream you want to be. Boy says, okay, so I want to be a parrot ... society says ... GOOD FOR YOU, we will feed you all the sunflower seeds you want.

Why, are we fixing what doesn't need fixing ... 99% of the kids don't have any issues ... girls that love wearing a dress, and playing with dolls, girls also playing hockey ... no issues ... boys and girls fishing, whatever ... why do we feel we need to interject in that and make any point, where the kid doesn't even care to hear it??

For the 1% that need the support ... sure, let's help those kids. Whatever way makes sense ...

And as for your question about fixing anything ... I am no psychological expert, so I have no idea what support looks like. Do you? Do you know what is right? Are you 100% sure the things being proposed today are right? Do you know there are people who are PERFECTLY healthy (physically), who identify as having a disability? They want to be blind, or paralyzed. What is okay to accept, and what is not? Should we just allow anyone to be whatever they dream of being ... a dog, a planet, air ... once you open up this pandora's box ... you cannot start drawing lines and say ... well, that is acceptable and this isn't. That would be hypocrisy at its best!

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Originally Posted by MarkB

. girls that love wearing a dress, and playing with dolls, girls also playing hockey ... no issues ... boys and girls fishing,

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Remember the 'Tom Boys' when we were growing up....it was a social norm back then.

If you want to take the time, you can look up those 6 books. In one a white man is drawn whipping a black man. In another a white boy with a gun in his hands is standing on the heads of three Asian people. Is that acceptable in a children's book?