Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
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Or as a group you pool your resources, build a storage faculty that all can use, for free. No buyers or sellers needed.
Yep, with those in power and their friends allocate out who gets the water, they make sure they are getting the clean water and told to blindly obey the ones with the power and if you want to build a well or pump or windmill you are denied water and driven from the village... that's socialismQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Nice ideas,but humankind is just not built for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Example:
Robert Owen -New Harmony,Indiana.
And if some don't feel like helping????
So teachers should teach for free. Awesome idea.
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
He should give back all the money from his pay checks, because getting paid a fair wage for work is Capitalism. He can see how much he is opposed to a Capitalist systemQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
As a retired person I have to ask , is my pension capitalism or socialism?
If it is paid for by anything other than member contributions it is at least partially socialist. CPP falls into that category as for every $1 contributed by workers $1.40 is contributed by employers. For example as an employer when i deduct $100 in CPP from an employee i actually remit $240 to the feds as CPP. The extra $140 comes out of my (i own the company) pocket. So as much as people think they have paid for their CPP in actuality over 58% of CPP funding comes off the bottom line of employers.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
EI is similar except the ratio is 1:1 so in that case 50% paid for by employees and 50% paid for by the employers.
So my answer would be your federal pension is a socialist program that is paid for by capitalists.
The perfect answer, well done !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
We all know we can't have 100% capitalism ... it drives the wrong behavior.
We also all know we can't have 100% socialism ... that drives even worse behavior!
There needs to be incentive to earn, to progress, to do better, and to improve ones lifestyle.
But there needs to be a community when someone legitimately needs the help (sick, treated unfairly, etc).
The only question in my head is what is the correct balance? For sure it isn't spend way too much money on the socialism
stuff until we go broke. We have to do what we can ... and that in itself means, we have to treat ANY money we have
as a precious commodity ... not like toilet paper, which is burned by government to serve their own selfish interests.
Great post MB. It goes for all governments. Always.