Manslaughter - wow

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Originally Posted by gbk

I see what You are saying-but ,what is the alternate side of Your theory.

She pulled out the gun to shoot the kid? Shoot to kill!
In front of so many body cameras?

Hardly believable(unless she was "suicidal" or "legally insane")

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Let's say it was her training that kick in, the last law enforcement individual I talk to about such matters said, when it comes to using their gun the primary point of focus is the center of mass. That suggest as well, she knew she was pointing her gun not a Taser. The fact that the body cameras were rolling, lead to her excuse she thought she was using her Taser. She was neither suicidal or legally insane, she was on a mission and used the Taser mistake as an excuse hoping the matter would slide, perhaps being a female might play into it as well, but I don't think passing it off as a dumb blonde mistake is going to fly. Not with her years of experience.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Let's say it was her training that kick in, the last law enforcement individual I talk to about such matters said, when it comes to using their gun the primary point of focus is the center of mass. That suggest as well, she knew she was pointing her gun not a Taser. The fact that the body cameras were rolling, lead to her excuse she thought she was using her Taser. She was neither suicidal or legally insane, she was on a mission and used the Taser mistake as an excuse hoping the matter would slide, perhaps being a female might play into it as well, but I don't think passing it off as a dumb blonde mistake is going to fly. Not with her years of experience.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Pretty common in the old day's down in the States for officers to have handy a "throw away piece" in case they shot a suspect who was actually unarmed, today with trace DNA and so forth and camera's this probably does not happen to often.

Well I'll tell you something - a lot of what's going on with police today is partly their own fault - for years some cop would violate a person's rights while the so called good cops would stand around and not stop what was going on - and when someone complained about the action a cop took the other cops would support him and he would get away with it - then came the cameras and people started filming what some cops were doing to citizens - that changed the ball game - it took awhile for some cops to realize that they can't continue to act the way they were used to - being a cop requires the recognition that citizens have rights and must be treated as such - I use to get on you-tube and type in police harassment or police brutality and see what some cops did - made me mad for sure -

Very true Joe there are bad COPS and Good Cops, its hard to speak up when you work in a police sub culture and its a them against us mentality. If there is systemic racism in a Police service and its supported by management its even more difficult.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Let's say it was her training that kick in, the last law enforcement individual I talk to about such matters said, when it comes to using their gun the primary point of focus is the center of mass. That suggest as well, she knew she was pointing her gun not a Taser. The fact that the body cameras were rolling, lead to her excuse she thought she was using her Taser. She was neither suicidal or legally insane, she was on a mission and used the Taser mistake as an excuse hoping the matter would slide, perhaps being a female might play into it as well, but I don't think passing it off as a dumb blonde mistake is going to fly. Not with her years of experience.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Thanx for the reply GN.

I do not want to stretch this any further.

However - i fail to see the motive.

There wouldn't be any difference in using a sidearm or taser when it comes to aim point. It would always be body mass. Head shots, intentional wounding, taking out shoulders or legs only takes place in movies.
What I was taught about tunnel vision is that everything closes in and turns gray. Not the same as the tunnel vision here where the officer is automatically guilty of intentionally taking the guys life.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

She was also apparently a "training officer" they might have to look back at her trainees and get them re trained.

Biggest problem I see in the U.S. and here now is that officers seem very afraid to get into a boxing match with suspects, I had score's of fights with suspect's and when I joined I was the smallest and lightest guy in my division, 5 11,1/2 and 160 lbs .Hardly a week went by that I did not have a foot chase and a fight of some kind. One of my tactics I used was to let them run for 1/4 to 1/2 mile and then found it pretty easy to subdue them. A big strong fight like hell suspect who might wrestle with two officer's and not want to get handcuffed found himself/herself leg cuffed, not a lot you can do to continue resisting if you have both legs cuffed at the ankles. This was before the days of pepper spray and Tasers. I never did use my pepper spray when it came out as there was just to much danger you got a doze of it yourself, a suspect kicking out the back window of a scout car if you sprayed them it would be considered excessive force and in any case you contaminate the car.

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Fist fight is one thing, were you not worried about getting stabbed or slashed ? ya never know what someone has tucked away

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Originally Posted by sawbill

There wouldn't be any difference in using a sidearm or taser when it comes to aim point. It would always be body mass. Head shots, intentional wounding, taking out shoulders or legs only takes place in movies.
What I was taught about tunnel vision is that everything closes in and turns gray. Not the same as the tunnel vision here where the officer is automatically guilty of intentionally taking the guys life.

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You would think nobody here has ever had "buck fever" and that's for nothing more than a deer! Change out the deer with a known criminal, possibly armed....

I've seen guys shake so bad they can't load a shotgun when they have a flight of ducks coming in. Lol

Certainly not a stretch to have this mistake made given the level of training police get now.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

There wouldn't be any difference in using a sidearm or taser when it comes to aim point. It would always be body mass. Head shots, intentional wounding, taking out shoulders or legs only takes place in movies.
What I was taught about tunnel vision is that everything closes in and turns gray. Not the same as the tunnel vision here where the officer is automatically guilty of intentionally taking the guys life.

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What you say about tunnel vision and everything going gray When they do up deer decoys, in many case all the white areas on the decoy on the head and neck are coloured hunter orange, and when the deer views it through their eyes they apparently see gray. Which brings me to my point, when you are using a scope or electronic (red dot) sight wouldn't that effectively result in a form of tunnel vision when you focused on a deer decoy? So the only one who are not likely to mistake a deer decoy for the real thing would be those using open sights. I wonder how many of those hunter orange look a likes get shoot at.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Fist fight is one thing, were you not worried about getting stabbed or slashed ? ya never know what someone has tucked away

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Sure I was worried but its a risk inherent in the job, I have been attacked with a ice pick, a hammer, had a gun tossed by a fleeing suspect, been spat on, been slapped in the face. Its all part of "dancing with the devil" Cops and criminals know exactly what that means.