Manslaughter - wow

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Originally Posted by sawbill

You make a lot of assumptions for someone who wasn't there. Join the crowd of naysayers. Yelling taser prior to deploying the unit seems to be protocol in most police agencies and its not for the benefit of a camera as you assume. You say she knew full well she was aiming her service weapon and not a taser? And you know this how??? I figure in the heat of the moment she ended up with tunnel vision and that would account for not recognizing she had a pistol and not a taser in her hand. But I wasn't there either.

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Their Tasers are yellow in colour what the video show was her with her black pistol in hand. Even if she is colour blind there is going to be a remarkable difference in the colour of the object she had in hand. I check to see what Tasers the police used in that area before commenting. They are a nice bright yellow. You'd have to have both eyes closed or blind not to realize what you have in hand. I'm sure her Taser, Taser, thing may been for any off camera audience. The chief resigning, for what reason? There had to be something amiss, he didn't pull the trigger she did, he could have simply apologized for the officer's mistake an let it go at that, but he went well beyond that. That suggested to me there was something to cover up, that is what raised my suspicion about the kid having been profiled.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

The shooting on capitol hill - that's different - it was intentional and it's hard to understand why a murder charge wasn't laid. Possibly because the victim was white, but more likely because she was a Trump supporter.

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I think that because they were breaking in and trying to get to the sitting senators to lynch them it would probably be considered justifiable.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

You make a lot of assumptions for someone who wasn't there. Join the crowd of naysayers. Yelling taser prior to deploying the unit seems to be protocol in most police agencies and its not for the benefit of a camera as you assume. You say she knew full well she was aiming her service weapon and not a taser? And you know this how??? I figure in the heat of the moment she ended up with tunnel vision and that would account for not recognizing she had a pistol and not a taser in her hand. But I wasn't there either.

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^^^^This^^^^
Finally a sensible post ! Obviously some here have no idea what “tunnel vision “ is.....as previously posted, had this person been of another race, there wouldn’t be any mention of it by the media. MSM is making everything about race, to fan the flames !!! This guy had an arrest warrant for armed robbery, resisted arrest, assaulted an officer in that resistance.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

Okay - I see the inconsistency. I still think the charges in Minneapolis were appropriate based the the US legal definition of manslaughter.

The shooting on capitol hill - that's different - it was intentional and it's hard to understand why a murder charge wasn't laid. Possibly because the victim was white, but more likely because she was a Trump supporter.

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I think for Capitol Hill, the shooting was justified. They was a mob that was about to breach the inner chambers of their House ... if that wasn't the time to shoot, then when is? We'd basically be saying just take away all guns from police, because there is no justifiable reason to shoot, and allow people to do anything ... let chaos rule.

For this particular case ... this is a charge, perhaps necessary to ensure this goes through the courts and the case is scrutinized. Hopefully, justice will be served correctly ... and I'm not on any side ... the deceased was doing bad stuff ... put himself in that situation ... the cop needs to now justify the error ... we should not pass judgement until all the evidence and arguments are heard.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

^^^^This^^^^
Finally a sensible post ! Obviously some here have no idea what “tunnel vision “ is.....as previously posted, had this person been of another race, there wouldn’t be any mention of it by the media. MSM is making everything about race, to fan the flames !!! This guy had an arrest warrant for armed robbery, resisted arrest, assaulted an officer in that resistance.

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Yep,all that,besides the fact he had a warrant for his involvement in an armed robbery. Having said that,I can't imagine how a 26 year veteran mistakes a Taser for her service weapon when the Taser is a different color,has half the weight and was carried on the opposite side of her service belt. What kind of a colossal brain fart was that?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Yep,all that,besides the fact he had a warrant for his involvement in an armed robbery. Having said that,I can't imagine how a 26 year veteran mistakes a Taser for her service weapon when the Taser is a different color,has half the weight and was carried on the opposite side of her service belt. What kind of a colossal brain fart was that?

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Brain fart for sure! One would have to look into their training....or lack thereof. This is not a new issue, it has happened before. There would be a whole host of questions that will need to be addressed.

Observations from the bodycam video.
No sound of gunfire.
No visible flash or recoil.
No sign of impact.
No immediate pursuit.
She drops the gun on the ground?
One movie two storylines. IMO

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Their Tasers are yellow in colour what the video show was her with her black pistol in hand. Even if she is colour blind there is going to be a remarkable difference in the colour of the object she had in hand. I check to see what Tasers the police used in that area before commenting. They are a nice bright yellow. You'd have to have both eyes closed or blind not to realize what you have in hand. I'm sure her Taser, Taser, thing may been for any off camera audience. The chief resigning, for what reason? There had to be something amiss, he didn't pull the trigger she did, he could have simply apologized for the officer's mistake an let it go at that, but he went well beyond that. That suggested to me there was something to cover up, that is what raised my suspicion about the kid having been profiled.

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I see what You are saying-but ,what is the alternate side of Your theory.

She pulled out the gun to shoot the kid? Shoot to kill!
In front of so many body cameras?

Hardly believable(unless she was "suicidal" or "legally insane")

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Yep,all that,besides the fact he had a warrant for his involvement in an armed robbery. Having said that,I can't imagine how a 26 year veteran mistakes a Taser for her service weapon when the Taser is a different color,has half the weight and was carried on the opposite side of her service belt. What kind of a colossal brain fart was that?

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She was also apparently a "training officer" they might have to look back at her trainees and get them re trained.

Biggest problem I see in the U.S. and here now is that officers seem very afraid to get into a boxing match with suspects, I had score's of fights with suspect's and when I joined I was the smallest and lightest guy in my division, 5 11,1/2 and 160 lbs .Hardly a week went by that I did not have a foot chase and a fight of some kind. One of my tactics I used was to let them run for 1/4 to 1/2 mile and then found it pretty easy to subdue them. A big strong fight like hell suspect who might wrestle with two officer's and not want to get handcuffed found himself/herself leg cuffed, not a lot you can do to continue resisting if you have both legs cuffed at the ankles. This was before the days of pepper spray and Tasers. I never did use my pepper spray when it came out as there was just to much danger you got a doze of it yourself, a suspect kicking out the back window of a scout car if you sprayed them it would be considered excessive force and in any case you contaminate the car.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

She was also apparently a "training officer" they might have to look back at her trainees and get them re trained.

Biggest problem I see in the U.S. and here now is that officers seem very afraid to get into a boxing match with suspects, I had score's of fights with suspect's and when I joined I was the smallest and lightest guy in my division, 5 11,1/2 and 160 lbs .Hardly a week went by that I did not have a foot chase and a fight of some kind. One of my tactics I used was to let them run for 1/4 to 1/2 mile and then found it pretty easy to subdue them. A big strong fight like hell suspect who might wrestle with two officer's and not want to get handcuffed found himself/herself leg cuffed, not a lot you can do to continue resisting if you have both legs cuffed at the ankles. This was before the days of pepper spray and Tasers. I never did use my pepper spray when it came out as there was just to much danger you got a doze of it yourself, a suspect kicking out the back window of a scout car if you sprayed them it would be considered excessive force and in any case you contaminate the car.

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Nothing wrong with a good old foot chase.
Catch me if you can lol. Never once did I ever run when a dog was present I'm not stupid lol.




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