Canadian 'Freedom Convoy' donors leaked

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

I am not trying to stir the pot by any means..

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Oh, I sincerely doubt that assertion.

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

Just confused by inconsistent logic that is being applied to both scenarios.

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No you're not. Your posts thus far convey a position that it's easier to argue from a passive aggressive posture. Ask innocently enough, while asserting an argumentative position that is fallacy. You're assertions disguised as questions are a typical strategy employed by those in the post secondary realm....

Argue the salient points, without asking...

Assert that the two are exactly the same, and then articulate why....not doing so shows a lack of ability to debate or defend a position effectively.

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

Although technically they both broke "the law"; one cannot throw that "law" argument against the truckers without applying it to events of 2014

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One was a revolution against a regime that by-and large the general population was against. It sought to depose it.

The other could hardly be described as such. Despite lots of "support" it did not receive the support of Canadians, nor the public in downtown Ottawa.

The two are not even remotely the same.

When my wife was in labour I "broke the law" getting her to the hospital. The ends justified the means, right? Only if I had been stopped by LEO, I would have expected the book to be thrown at me, and the justice system would have dealt with it from there....and I would understand it, as I had violated the laws of the land.

Which is exactly where those who have been charged are at.

My guess? There will be a lot of conditional discharges being granted with conditions.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

One was a revolution against a regime that by-and large the general population was against. It sought to depose it.

The other could hardly be described as such. Despite lots of "support" it did not receive the support of Canadians, nor the public in downtown Ottawa.

The two are not even remotely the same..

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There are LOTs of similarities in both. More the western news will have you believe.
The main difference is who won the media battle in the end is the one who writes the history in the end..

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Doug Ford announced his intention last fall to lift the vaccine passport in January but was delayed by Omicron. He'd always planned to lift it and the timing has nothing to do with the illegal occupation of downtown Ottawa and everything to do with declining hospitalization rates.

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So why are talking about more restrictions this fall again mote shut downs and mandates Dr Tam is talking about . If we are coming out of a pandemic why would she be warning of more mandates coming lol.

They just need to end and stay ended lol.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

So why are talking about more restrictions this fall again mote shut downs and mandates Dr Tam is talking about . If we are coming out of a pandemic why would she be warning of more mandates coming lol.

They just need to end and stay ended lol.

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I’m not aware of additional restrictions in the fall but it’s my understanding that, in general, occurrces of the flu decline in warmer weather and increase in cooler weather… something to do with the amount of time people spend indoors cooped up with others. Perhaps Dr. Tam expects another wave next year.

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

There are LOTs of similarities in both.

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OK. Go ahead....argue that point. You want to argue false equivalencies as a debate style, and then act innocent...give us those points....

I shouldn't have to educate a grown adult on how to effectively debate, but here we are.

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

More the western news will have you believe.
The main difference is who won the media battle in the end is the one who writes the history in the end..

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Based on what?

I see lots of posts railing against MSM from you ( borderline Alcan Chapeau material).

I'm fairly certain the revolution in Ukraine in 2014, and the subsequent government change, coupled with the fact that there were fewer Ukrainian citizens seeking to emigrate post 2014 bears out that it was a good thing.

Similarly, lots of folks in downtown Ottawa were peaceful. Lots weren't. Lots were charged, some have been sued.

I guess the MSM also controls the Justice system? Or could it be that a Judge found some merit in the class action?

Be aware that confirmation bias is a thing. You choose to believe a certain thing, you're going to find lots of "sources" that are going to agree with you...

Anyhow, after a return after a lengthy absence, I came back to enjoy some hunting, shooting, and fishing threads.

This site has seemingly become a community of pot stirrers, and a place for people to complain about whatever government or policy seems to be at issue with them. trying to get things back to balance...Turkey opens in about 60 days.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Be aware that confirmation bias is a thing. You choose to believe a certain thing, you're going to find lots of "sources" that are going to agree with you...
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Why would I waste my time giving you data references if you already made up your mind about my sources before seeing them?
Clearly no matter what data I provide as argument will not convince you otherwise.

So let's agree to disagree..

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Blockades are a separate issue. Lanes were left open, businesses were happy despite the false msm narrative. Laws were broken by the government, and the funds were frozen before the bogus state of emergency was declared. Violence was initiated by the government.

This to my earlier point of simply changing definitions of things so that whatever/whoever you don't like becomes "terrorism" etc.
Slippery slope. Which is why the left's broader agenda of censoring speech is so important and should be a wake up call for everyone concerned with freedom.

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I suggest if your so concerned with freedom you should take a look at MSM and see what loss of real freedom looks like. CNN has coverage from the ground your Rebel News probably does not have to many reporters in Ukraine.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I suggest if your so concerned with freedom you should take a look at MSM and see what loss of real freedom looks like. CNN has coverage from the ground your Rebel News probably does not have to many reporters in Ukraine.

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See my post #18 in the "USA Convoy" thread, where I address this claim.

"If you want to see REAL oppression, just go to _________" (insert country that's worse off than ours).

This is perhaps the weakest argument I've ever encountered, and a complete avoidance of important local issues.

I am left wondering how many on here were dumb enough to contribute to this. If you had asked I could have easily told you it would be hacked shortly. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Heck I predicted that there were still copies of the Gun registry and there ar4e probably hundreds of local ones.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

I am left wondering how many on here were dumb enough to contribute to this. If you had asked I could have easily told you it would be hacked shortly. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Heck I predicted that there were still copies of the Gun registry and there ar4e probably hundreds of local ones.

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Yeh pretty sure Homeland security has the complete registry.